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My 2001 Mustang GT with 300 lb-ft of torque and a cheap Made in Mexico transmission doesn't have one. It has a cable clutch "linkage". The transmission is "protected" via tire spin. Especially with my 5 year old Goodyears.

I wonder if the newer "drive by wire" cars without mechanical throttle linkages use computer programming to accomplish what the valve does in the M3? I think I've heard "complaints" about this sort of programming in some drive by wire cars.

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Dick Rasmussen

FS 50 2018 Mustang GT

Hp, ha!

Eveyone knows torque wins autox, not hp

And until you have over 310ftlb from a measly 1.8 liters, I don't want to hear it...

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85 Porsche 944 ASP 11
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My advise to Dan; I'm assuming you're into the cars themselves just as much as competition, and thats why you bought the M3. Do whatever you want to the car to be happy with it; delete the cdv, keep the x-brace, twin charge it, make it AWD ..whatever. Enjoy the car, and run whatever class it throws you in. Competition will find you

BSP welcomes you with open arms!

Back on topic, and while I understand that the rules are the rules are the rules, what about in progress conversions? For example, had Jim not been able to find a 1LE package Camaro, would the club have allowed him to run the car in Stock if he were to convert it to 1LE specifications over the course of many events? Brakes one month, bushings the next, alloy driveshaft to follow and so on. The car is technically illegal for Stock class, as I understand, if it is not either a 1LE or a regular Camaro. But since half a 1LE is not better than a whole one, would the club allow it to compete in stock when it is half done?

I imagine that a lot of Miata guys looking to convert their car to the hot package have run into the same issue. I just used Jim's car as it is a concrete example and I happen to know more about F-bodies than Miatae.

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Rich
http://www.v8mongrel.com/

Sounds good to me. I'll run my formula ford with the Cortina GT/Pinto engine in HS while I gradually convert it back to being a real car. I'll start with the name badges.

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Dick Rasmussen

FS 50 2018 Mustang GT

Whoa there everyone. You all need to understand how this club works.

Aside from our own special classing decisions we (THSCC) point to the SCCA rulebook. That's all. After that we have some not-well-defined protest procedure. It's brilliantly simple, and, no, I didn't come up with it.

For all THSCC is concerned Donnie could run his FSAE car in HS. No one could STOP him from doing this.

Repeat after me: Legality is up to the competitors in a class.

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Mike Whitney
whit32@gmail.com, 919-454-5445
V10, V8, V8t, I6, I6, V6, F4t, I4, I4, I4, I4, I2, 1, 1

Sweet. So I just move to any class with a PAX I like that no one is running in at the event I am attending, and no one can protest me!!! Sweet!

- dow

Most of the stuff, no one would notice and I might bite my lip knowing the car was going to FS. But in reality, would run it in ESP or STU. And that is exactly what I did when I bought the car. It had a spark box. Illegal in Stock. I guess I could have turned a bling eye and ran it FS. You know that is not a performance adavantage

I have no sympathy for people that cheat. Especially since I am going through hell trying to find a replacement rear diff. There is no one in this club that even know if I swapped a T2R into the car or even a Torsen.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

Is this your opinion (as you stated the first time you said it on page 1) or is this a fact? If Donnie registers as H-stock and is the only competitor, will no officer come forward and move him? That sounds absurd, but I will readily admit I don't know the precedent.

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Rich
http://www.v8mongrel.com/

Now where is this CDV? Your response from the SCCA stated that the removal was illegal in SP. If the CDV is attached to the transmission, the only way to use the update/backdate rule is to swap the entire transmission in SP. You can not just change individual pieces.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

Car has (or is supposed to have) an Auburn, right?

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Rich
http://www.v8mongrel.com/

You don't have to be in the same class to protest someone. Noob.

Really? That's news to me.

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Vincent Keene
'06 Ford Mustang GT (track rat)
'15 Dodge Charger R/T (yeah, it's got a HEMI!)
'07 Ford Fusion SE (205,000 miles and counting)
'98 Chevy Z-24 (retired)
'93 Acura Integra (Team SWB 24HOL Car)

Top Gun award would provide the ability for any competitor to protest.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

Repeat after me: Cars are supposed to run in the class(es) that they are legal for. If they have any modifications which are not allowed in a particular class, then they should enter a class where the mods are legal OR they should "demod" the car. Their choice.

If you don't like an SCCA rule:

1) Join SCCA
2) Propose a rule change
3) Be patient and be prepared to be disappointed, especially if your rule change is really an "I Class" proposal

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Dick Rasmussen

FS 50 2018 Mustang GT