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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:05 pm 
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Here's a good link I found in Honda-Tech:

http://sccaforums.com/forums/16/ShowForum.aspx


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Per the results on SCCA.org Donna is now a two time National Champ (assuming she hasn't won even more times). :D

No results yet for Jim's class (STS2) even though the link says Wednesday.

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Donna won her second national championship in convincing fashion by 2.6 sec.
Jim F. earned his name as the Alien by taking second place in STS2 in his first nationals defeating some major drivers.
Eric had an even tougher day today DNFing all his runs trying to pull himself out of a 6 sec weather created day one deficit.
I finally got 3 clean runs... :wink:

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Congrats Donna!

Congrats Jim!

Here's some info on Donnie's shock story, it's on miata.net so I presume he doesn't mind the link being posted here:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=150200

I'm more and more impressed with the whole Lee Grimes crew every time I hear a story like this. Customer service like that is just plain amazing.

--Kevin H.

Edit: D'oh! Teach me for skipping part of a page!

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Kevin,

I don't think you will have any complaints from Donnie about posting the link . . . Donnie himself posted it a couple of days ago . . . in this thread. :roll: :D

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Eric claims he didn't DNF all his runs on purpose, but he was the first to point out that there is some sort of "biggest improvement" award given to the driver who improved from one year to the next at Nationals. So he's hoping next year is his year and he not only wins the championship, but takes the most improved award, too. :)

I don't think the shocks are adjusted right yet (we just went with what Koni recommended rather than what Steve had, which was probably the wrong thing to do but we weren't sure that they are the same now as what Steve had anyway, so it may not have mattered). We had lots of hopping around and wheelspin as a result, which I think hurt me a good bit today. I know there was more time out there, but I actually felt like I drove well and that the car was *really* holding me back in three corners that had decent pulls after them (it seemed to skip for an eternity...I know I'm driving well when little things seem to take forever).

Anyway, we'll do some note comparison when we get home (left the original dyno sheets at home) and do some adjustment and see how that works at the SeDiv in Norfolk in a few weeks.

I'm just happy to be on the way home. Only have about 12 more hours of driving. :(


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Whew! In some ways I'm glad it's over but I can't wait to get back out there next year! A *huge* thanks goes out to Donnie and Eric who not only gave me a ride out there, they taught me a ton and made the entire experience memorable and extremely enjoyable. On top of that, they expanded my vocabulary with a bunch of new and colorful phrases which I would expound upon but I don't want to upset/offend any children, women or small furry woodland creatures that may be reading this. :shock: There is no way I'll ever be able to repay those guys for their generosity and friendship. Thanks guys!!!

I'd also like to thank Jim Pastorius for introducing me to the national scene last year and all the advice he provided. Without his initial push and guidance, it would have taken me much longer to make the step up assuming I would have ever even gotten there in the first place. He also helped Kristin a tremendous amount after her initial auto-x experience with me didn't go too well. This club just wouldn't be the same without people like this and if I can help somebody in the future even 10% of what these guys did, I would consider it an accomplishment. Thanks again to you all.

I'd also like to thank my co-driver for nationals and new friend, Peter Thana. He is a super nice guy and a great driver who drives an STS Civic in the San Deigo region. Without getting into the slightly convoluted story about how we met, let me just say that he was able to provide me with exactly the type of feedback I need to improve the car immensely. With his input on the chassis and some motor development during the off-season, I expect the car to be supa' dupa' bad fast next season. I can hardly wait!

The car, thankfully, managed to stay in one piece during the entire event. As predicted, the start of both courses allowed a short-shift into 2nd gear which greatly minimized the potential of a missed shift. The north course featured a really long slalom (9 cones?) at the beginning which caught a lot of people out-- myself included. I never managed to get that one right but once through that section, the rest of the course was a blast. We fought a few handling problems which we couldn't do much about but I still felt like I drove well so I was pleased with that.

The biggest problem we faced was once again getting the car to rotate. Strangely enough, the car was evil loose in the slalom but would push pretty bad through the rest of the course. We had to dial back the rear shocks just to survive the slalom and it really hurt us everywhere else. That wasn't something we were going to fix with 5 minutes between runs but I have a plan in place for the future.

The other problem we faced was massive wheel spin. I mentioned to Peter before we started the event that the car had wheel spin problems all season and he said the same thing everybody else I've talked to about it, "we don't have wheel spin issues with our car." Given the damp conditions on Tuesday, Peter didn't feel like the wheel spin was out of control but after running the bone-dry north course on Wednesday, he confirmed what I thought all along. My car has massive wheel spin issues!

Considering the soft 250k mile motor in the car, power certainly wasn't the cause. We think the biggest issue is the goofy mounting point of the rear swaybar. The '88 cars mount the rear swaybar in the middle of the rear lower control arm while everything '89+ mounts at the end where the lower shock bolt is. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of the bar which allows the inside front tire too much upward travel and hence, massive wheel spin. Since I haven't driven a front-wheel drive car in 15 years, I didn't know how much wheel spin was "normal". Even on the uber-grippy concrete in Topeka, my car couldn't put down its measly power unless the wheels were pointed dead-straight. Fixing that will be my first priority for next couple of events.

Anyway, it's good to be home. Thanks to all who were rooting for us and we'll try to do even better next year.

Jim


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A big congratulations goes out to Jim for his 2nd place finish!!!!!!!!!! This is especially impressive for three reasons: 1) It's hard to have a good finish at Nats no matter how good you are, 2) It was Jim's first time to Topeka, and 3) His competition had cars that were much better setup and had a bunch more power. Donnie and I got to see all his runs and he did a really awesome job of driving - it was exciting and fun to watch!!! Great job Jim!

Also, congrats go to Donna Frank for winning her 2nd National Championship in three years...and in a car that she was driving for only the second time! Nicely done Donna!!

Donnie, Chris, Chuck, and I did a great job of lending moral support...that's code for saying we got taken to the woodshed :-)

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Well, I'm still trying to figure out what kind of USEFUL information Jim learned from Eric and I. Maybe it was seeing us suck and knowing what NOT to do that helped him out. :)

Anyway, it was great having Jim around on the trip. He's an awesome traveling partner...much better than Peterson, that's for sure. I'm not sure I can stand ONE MORE SINGLE trip with that guy. ;)

It was one crappy week as far as the racing was concerned, but it was still one awesome week of fun with good friends. I was ready to be home with my kids, but that would have been the same win or lose, good friends or not.


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Thanks for all the well wishes everyone! :D



Jim I have your cool new trophy for you!

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