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i hate to be a pain in the ass, but if i pre-register for the season and choose to compete in novice D class stock shouldn't i be able to get a D class stock permanent number? i am way too lazy to put tape on my car every event for numbering. i'm sure i'm missing something here when i browse the rules. again laziness enters into the picture.

should i just take my lumps and compete in open class D stock and say the heck with novice class?

Just a little hint...

you can run in Novice Street-Modified, but still have a DS permanent number...

I'm not saying to do it, but if you are telling yourself, "this seems too hard," then you are probably making it too hard.


Scott

hmmn, so i could mod more and run in a stock category? i don't really understand and i am guessing i never will. however, i like the idea. thanks.

Um, maybe there's some other thread where Street Mod is mentioned that I didn't read. But if you have a SM vehicle you can not enter it in D Stock, nor can you enter in NOV with a DS index but an SM car. Maybe what Scott was trying to say is that you can reserve the D Stock number that you want, but you don't have to use it at every event.

As for being too lazy to tape your NOV numbers on every event, you could quite possibly use the same numbers for NOV and DS and have the same magnetics for both. If you get some scraps of magnetic from a sign shop (small pieces are usually free for the asking), you could make your own NOV magnetics, thus eliminating the whole tape thing most likely.

Now there is a risk that some other novice could grab the number you want. But if you sign up early, during the members-only period, you should be able to get in ahead of any interlopers. Worst case, you could make your numbers out of tape placed on the magnetics, so it would be easy to change them if you need to.

We're discussing the merits of allowing Novice Permanent Numbers or not, but historically people have been pretty bad about updating/deleting their info, and with as many NOVs as come through the system every year, my concern is that it would get all "clogged up" with obsolete numbers.

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See, you're making it too hard again.

All I was saying is that your Permanent number and te car you choose to drive, and the class you choose to run in don't have to be related. All that matters is what is in the scoring system the day of the event (a scoring system that is INDEPENDANT of the web system).

Example: I have a D-Stock Celica, and run it in X-class. My permanent number is "X23." At any given time, I can accept a co-drive in a SSM Porsche 911, and just because my permanent number is "X23" that doesn't mean I can't just register for the event as "SSM 88." All of this will be clear when you are allowed to register for an event.

Just sign up for your first event as a Novice, with the right index class and come out to see how things are done. Most of your current questions will be answered with experience. At that point, we'd be glad to answer all of your *new* questions.

Scott

just don't want to look stupid, or worse be responsible for fouling some one up. i know there is a learning curve with everything and it will come to me eventually, but classing to me , seems to lack any rhyme or reason. i will send my prereg. monies for the season and if ya'll would be so kind as to place me somewhere i would appreciate it. thanks. 8)

Just tell us where to put you, and we'll get it done.

This is a laid back operation, if something gets fouled up, we'll just un-foul it and it isn't a big deal. It's nice to see a rookie who is taking the time to figure some things out before the first event!

Oh yeah, classing doesn't have much rhyme or reason, but that's just the way it is.

Scott

I disagree. The SCCA seems to do a pretty good job, IMO.

Mike's guide to understanding the classes
See which category best describes a car, then check the detailed rules to see if you fit or not.

OPEN CLASSES

Stock - only typical replacement parts allowed. Some performance parts are considered replacement parts.

SS - stupid fast sports cars
AS - fast sports cars
BS - quick sports cars
CS - newer small sports cars
DS - high performance coupes and sedans
ES - older small sports cars
FS - pony cars
GS - performance coupes and sedans
HS - slow stuff

Sure, there are a bunch of exceptions, but for the most part those exceptions are cars which don't fit into the "descriptions".

ASP, BSP, CSP, DSP, ESP, FSP - Classic "street" modifications and run on race rubber. Rules consistent.

(STS, STT), STX, STU - Modern "street" modifications and run on street tires. Different prep levels for X and U.

SM, SM2 - Essentially "run what ya brung" street cars on race tires. But there are rules.

Prepared and Mod - purpose built AX cars. Or people who cluelessly tore the interior out of their cars who get destroyed by the purpose built AX cars.

THSCC SPECIFIC CLASSES

TIR - Street Tire class - Any open class above can be run within TIR (except for ST* for reasons which will become apparent to you). But please just find a ST* class you can run in!

NOV - Novice class - Any Open class above can be run within NOV.

X - Old Pro / new "saving you from myself" class - Any Open class above can be run within X.


IMO, YMMV, etc, etc. I'm not even an autocross VP any more

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dude, its fuzzy side up from where i make a living. i like my definitions without exceptions. "novice class test case" , thats the class i want to run this year.

Here is a way to avoid taping on your numbers without permenant numbers. Draw out a full sized 7 segment number on paper.

Then use this pattern to cut the segments out of strips of magnetic material. If you make 6 digits then you can handle any car number from 000 to 999. I did this years ago before we had fixed numbers. All it took was some paper, rug knife and drawing tools from freshman year at NCSU. Also there is very little waste of the magnetic material.

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George Bright Member # 141
One of the youngest of the old farts.
Yes I voted against you joining the club.

So Steve, what exactly do you drive and what has been done to it? Once we know that we can help you find a home.

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'99 Mk IV Jetta VR6 now claimed by the better half.

'90 Miata A-package, Floats like a butterfly and buzzes like a BEE with loudspeakers.

97 bmw 328is bone stock but for a K&N air filter and an aftermarket muffler well back from the cats. D-stock is my assumption.

DS it is. I'd suggest learning how to drive it as is, otherwise you get to play with Whiney and Mauldin(s) in DSP.

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Excellent car! Novice with a D-stock PAX is correct.

Now for the advice portion. DONT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE!!!! As long as the tires are good and dont show cord. Drive the wheels off it, you will have a blast!!! Now that we have a year long Novice class, you can have fun with people of your own level.

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