Donnie Barnes wrote:
Rob Keehner wrote:
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Hopefully next year when some other club can do it.
Donnie I get the feeling that you have an opinion and could be helpful. But do you come to events or help organize anymore? You certainly don't seem to have any confidence based on this quote. I keep hearing this long time members thing over and over again. I only see their handles on the Internet. When teaching course design as a skill people need hand holding and lessons of experience from these long time people.
Nope, I don't come to events or help organize anymore. I did a ProSolo this year for kicks, I do a little private instruction, and otherwise I drive some karts for fun occasionally. I have a lifetime TH membership, and I do think one day I'll end up driving more again in a few years when my kids start driving themselves around and don't want to hang with me on the weekends. But for now, life is too busy.
I think you're beating yourself up over things you shouldn't. EVERY CLUB gets blasted for course design. TH is probably doing just fine there. You just can't lower yourself to the level (or below) of your detractors. I'm a *little* surprised that leadership didn't understand that the NCAC would need to be a bit more by the SCCA book in terms of things like Ladies classes (which I don't personally care for, but I realize the need to have them as long as SCCA does when putting on "bigger" events). But even that kind of thing was handled reasonably. It's just the reply to the bullshit attacks that were out of line.
Bottom line, TH isn't NEARLY as screwed up as the other clubs have made it out to be. Folks are just taking Internet crap too personally AND responding to it poorly. I suppose it's possible that TH courses aren't as good these days as they've been. Maybe the experience level is just down from the organizers. Have some thicker skin and keep plugging away and it'll be fine, though. I remember a few mediocre TH courses from some folks who went on to later design some good stuff. *shrug*
Personally, I'd feel better about *my* club if the current leadership apologized for the fake course map stunt.
Either way, ignore the bullshit from now on and go out and put on the best events you can. And please, let's drop all the "NCAC Sux" rhetoric. If most TH folks TRULY feel that way, then bow out after this year and forget about it. But keeping things stewing over it is dumb.
--Donnie
It's time to remove the joke course map from MSREG. It served its purpose, and I suspect fans will see it again on December 5th.
Regarding course designs -- the important thing in an amateur, volunteer organization is that we have volunteers -- if not, a handful of people in the club end up doing everything and quickly get burned out. We urge people to get involved and chair an event - with the carrot that you can design the course to your liking and the officers will only intervene if there's a safety issue. Couple that with site limitations and 100+ armchair quarterbacks and you'll get complaints, but as long as we get both old and new members involved on a regular basis we can keep this hobby going. Also helps when event participants make a point of thanking the people who make the events happen!
For this NCAC event, Rob and Steven stepped up to the task of designing courses for a wider audience on a "foreign" site. Thank you! I have confidence that on event day we'll see their work is top notch.
If someone can pull together a list of online autocross course design docs, we can link them from our website.
Future NCAC participation: We're in it for this year. For the next 4 years, we can relax, because barring the re-emergence of strong NCAC leadership and/or a new NCAC series, it's out of our hands. Once this year's event is in the books, I suggest that Zach, Brice and Derek write a letter about it to the 2020 officers and ask Bowie to deliver it at the 2019 Christmas party.
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