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Is VMP too far for an autocross event
Nah, I'll drive past NCCAR for a better site 80%  80%  [ 35 ]
Too far 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
I wasn't going to go anyways, but I want to tell you how to run your autocross program 18%  18%  [ 8 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Is VMP too far?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:44 am 
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It sounds like there is a back story for that shirt/event. Anyone mind rehashing it for us new guys?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:44 am 
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RodneyWright wrote:
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Completely agree that that was the best shirt ever. Mine is still in use as an oil change shirt, I just can't bring myself to get rid of it


That's funny.... I have 2 draws of shirts now, 1 for working on cars and the yard and one to be seen in public in.


Me too, well more like 4 drawers. :) I did actually snag two of these shirt way back when, the XL version has seen lots of use and is now a garage shirt, this L has basically sat in a drawer for the past 13 years because I prefer to wear an XL. It isn't perfect, but its in pretty decent shape. Anyone else have one preserved?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:15 pm 
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JamesMilko wrote:
It sounds like there is a back story for that shirt/event. Anyone mind rehashing it for us new guys?


I'll see if I can fill in some blanks, but gosh that was a long time ago.

1000 years ago, Mike and Kendra Whitney Shawn Whipple, Matt Nicholson, Diane Hall and I hung around a lot, and had a clever racing team name - No Gum Racing. Yes, we were "those people" with a racing team name. Anyway, we autocrossed and did track events together, a lot.

Back then, Diane was still local, and had a black, R-package Miata. She'd gotten a lot of experience driving on the unpaved portions of places like VIR and CMP. Frequently backwards, and occasionally into things. :lol: At least, that was her reputation, right or wrong. I think the shirt was largely a tribute to her. It's a Miata falling off the cliff, and I believe that's the car number she used, back when those cars were B-Stock cars.

The upside-down print "Don't Go Off Again" was intended to be a reminder for anyone wearing the shirt. That's been a fetish of Mike's before - I remember him designing some long sleeve shirts for the track program, with INSTRUCTOR written down the length of the sleeves, so pit out could see it easily. Pretty clever, actually.

I'd done a lot of off-road driving around then as well, and the Road Runner thing may have been an indirect reference to that. May have been because of a trip into the dirt coming out of T4 at CMP, driver's left. I thought surely, I can be full throttle from somewhere around the exit of T1, to the exit of T4. It didn't go well.

The Britney Spears tribute may have been my idea - that song came out right around then, I think.

Mike, have I got that about right?

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 Post subject: Re: Is VMP too far?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:28 pm 
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Karl Shultz wrote:
1000 years ago, Mike and Kendra Whitney Shawn Whipple, Matt Nicholson, Diane Hall and I hung around a lot, and had a clever racing team name - No Gum Racing.


I may have it wrong, but I had always thought that the name for the team was an homage to (or inspired by) the classic line by Roddy Piper in "They Live"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:21 am 
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Karl Shultz wrote:
The Britney Spears tribute may have been my idea - that song came out right around then, I think.


Who can a find a picture of Karl's "Britney Spears Action Figure"? I believe she debuted at the legendary (or so they claimed) Autocross Type R event.

Oh, I wasn't supposed to mention that?

Here's a picture of Karl bestowing the prized "R" award to a Lumberton police cruiser.
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To get back on subject - yes to a VMP autocross. And we need a funny event t-shirt. Someone please go do something stupid soon so we can have a theme!


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i go to vmp to watch drag racing all the time. good haul but not too bad. rally cross site are often 1 hr, so two hour is not bad.got a ticket last i was up there.i parked in a two way turn lane for ten seconds, cop came up. boy he was pissed.still dont understand why.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:23 am 
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Several of us ran there this past weekend - fun and fast. We just need to be careful with coarse design. A DSP BMW hit one of the waste oil tanks (circled below) that line the south edge of the lot. Of course there are light poles too.

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It's so big, it is tempting to make a fast coarse (I've been in third gear there in the past), but there are hazards.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:13 pm 
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It is interesting that a car hit the waste oil tank. I've run a lot of events at VMP and never seen that or a light pole hit. I don't recall which one he hit but I think it was after a slalom in a power on curving straight. I suspect he was out of shape in a 60 foot spacing slalom (dog slow in my Mustang on all season tires) and either never gave up and/or tried to apply power over the bumps. I had to be VERY careful on the grass side of the site with my solid axle and 400 lb-ft of torque. :lol:

You really have to emphasize the need to give up when the car gets loose in a slalom and that the bumps will upset many cars.

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I've seen 3 incidents of cars hitting hard objects there. Twice it was a dumpster in too close of proximity to a poorly designed course at the end of the grandstands side (a C5 went under it... then later Sally Johnson had a tank slapper into it in the same day). I blame the course design with that one.

The other one was someone hitting a oil tank in around the same spot as you pointed out Cash. As Dick pointed out, it's a spot with rythmic bumps that if you are at high speed and turning there, you better have some run off space.

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