CAM class proposed by SCCA

Stephen Westerfield · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:20 am

Jason Mauldin wrote:

Rodney, I'm going to try to do more events. However, two out of the first three events are already booked. :evil:

If you run in CAM. I will too.

Alright Rodney...it's all on you. Pick a class. I need to buy magnets.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:37 am

DickRasmussen wrote:

Maybe you should do a cost comparison with quickly finding a Boss 302 and trading. The Boss might be faster out of the box than anything you can do with the Bullitt. I wonder if a stock Boss is eligible for STU or CAM? I think it is A Street. :lol:

I can say with no hesitation that I won't own a Boss 302. Not that I don't want one, just can't afford it. I could throw another 20k at the Bullitt and still not have as much money in it as I would w/ a Boss. I could put a procharger on the bullitt for about 4k and get about 400 at the rear wheels, that would make the bullitt fun to drive and still be somewhat cheap.

As for the Boss being in CAM, don't see why not, it fits per the rules of "spend all the money you have on your car"

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:49 am

Stephen Westerfield wrote:

Jason Mauldin wrote:

Rodney, I'm going to try to do more events. However, two out of the first three events are already booked. :evil:

If you run in CAM. I will too.

Alright Rodney...it's all on you. Pick a class. I need to buy magnets.

CAM

That said, we now need to promote this class via the webpage and faceplant. I'll spin something up on facebook, although I need to know the ruling on 'vettes from the staff please.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:02 am

RodneyWright wrote:

I can say with no hesitation that I won't own a Boss 302. Not that I don't want one, just can't afford it. I could throw another 20k at the Bullitt and still not have as much money in it as I would w/ a Boss. I could put a procharger on the bullitt for about 4k and get about 400 at the rear wheels, that would make the bullitt fun to drive and still be somewhat cheap.

As for the Boss being in CAM, don't see why not, it fits per the rules of "spend all the money you have on your car"

Understood! :lol:

Jason Mauldin · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:34 pm

Can we get an order of three sets of cam magnets? I need mine in orange please.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:38 pm

Jason Mauldin wrote:

Can we get an order of three sets of cam magnets? I need mine in orange please.

I'm probably going to make mine, have some magnetic sheet material on order.... You and Stephen will need to get together on that one.

Cash Davidson · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:21 pm

RodneyWright wrote:

been thinking about this class some more. In regard to 2 seaters and 'vettes, I'd be good with allowing up to C4's, but nothing later. That would allow protouring cars w/ rear seat deletes and trucks to come out and play.

I still haven't heard back from other club members, but is ANYONE going to run this class? If not, I'm going STU. Stephen, where are you running this year? I know Art is staying street class. Not sure if Jason M is going to run this year....

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

Hmm, who would I rather lose to? Art or Rodney, Stephen and Jason. :lol:

michaelsmiller · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:53 pm

RodneyWright wrote:

Stephen Westerfield wrote:

Jason Mauldin wrote:

Rodney, I'm going to try to do more events. However, two out of the first three events are already booked. :evil:

If you run in CAM. I will too.

Alright Rodney...it's all on you. Pick a class. I need to buy magnets.

CAM

That said, we now need to promote this class via the webpage and faceplant. I'll spin something up on facebook, although I need to know the ruling on 'vettes from the staff please.

Someone should probably be at Cars and Coffee next month with a flyer. I would think that we could find a few muscle car guys who would assume that they can kick a Bullet's butt. In California Muscle Car autoX is very popular according to my son Eric. There's no reason for it not to be in NC.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:23 pm

Cash Davidson wrote:

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

Hmm, who would I rather lose to? Art or Rodney, Stephen and Jason. :lol:

Yeah, I think Art is the only wise one among us who hasn't modded the crap out of their cars. That said I think we'll have to move in with Art in retirement since he'll still have money :mrgreen:

That said I don't I've gone too overboard on mods, mainly suspension stuff and tires/wheels. Watching some of the guys on the other forums I follow, they must have money to burn or at least no kids....

Cash, I think you're in good shape to run the 140TW tires this year, next year is the hop to 200. Good thing these new ones I just bought are 200. I should be able to get 2 years out of these even w/ Jordan and I co-driving.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:57 pm

Cash Davidson wrote:

RodneyWright wrote:

been thinking about this class some more. In regard to 2 seaters and 'vettes, I'd be good with allowing up to C4's, but nothing later. That would allow protouring cars w/ rear seat deletes and trucks to come out and play.

I still haven't heard back from other club members, but is ANYONE going to run this class? If not, I'm going STU. Stephen, where are you running this year? I know Art is staying street class. Not sure if Jason M is going to run this year....

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

Hmm, who would I rather lose to? Art or Rodney, Stephen and Jason. :lol:

Maybe I should give up on CM and show up in my completely oem, including all season tires, Mustang limo. That would sew up dead last. :lol:

I am registered in the Mustang for the NASA event at VMP on Feb 2.

Andrew Jonell · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:43 pm **Posts:** 1350

Cash Davidson wrote:

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

If you're running the R-S3s, I'm sure that nobody would protest it.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:36 pm

Andrew Jonell wrote:

Cash Davidson wrote:

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

If you're running the R-S3s, I'm sure that nobody would protest it.

Especially if he is still running the same set in 2015 when the limit jumps to 200. :lol:

JamesShort · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:15 am

Yes Rodney, CAM will be slower than STU so it makes sense for you to run there, why not? Interesting that CAM will be the same pax as FSR though

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Cash Davidson · **Posted:** Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:55 am

DickRasmussen wrote:

Andrew Jonell wrote:

Cash Davidson wrote:

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

If you're running the R-S3s, I'm sure that nobody would protest it.

Especially if he is still running the same set in 2015 when the limit jumps to 200. :lol:

Uh-oh! You guys are on to me and have figured out my secret to AutoX domination - my tire selection criteria.

1 - Black
2 - Round
3 - Cheap

And really the first two are optional. :lol:

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

Cash Davidson wrote:

So assuming I run the Bullitt, is it just Art & I in FS? Although the only tires I currently have are 140TW.

Hmm, who would I rather lose to? Art or Rodney, Stephen and Jason. :lol:

Cash - Rodney is a much more gracious winner than me. :redcool:

That said, 140 TW is legal for Street class in 2014.

RodneyWright wrote:

Yeah, I think Art is the only wise one among us who hasn't modded the crap out of their cars. That said I think we'll have to move in with Art in retirement since he'll still have money :mrgreen:

The less I change on a professionally engineered car, the less likely I am to regret the results, especially in daily driving. That said, I suspect I will need a stiffer RSB this year to compensate for the loss of turn-in performance going from 275mm A6s to 245mm Rivals.

Regarding retirement, my house isn't big enough for all of you. In your case particularly, we'd have to do something about your laugh.

Regarding the economics of modifying your Bullitt infinitely vs. buying a late model Boss 302 - if you could resist modifying the Boss 302 (hah!) it might be cheaper. They're all used cars now and I see some with asking prices under $40K. Capital has a sweet looking 2012 in Race Red for $39K. "Camdon Autosport" (aka Fast Cash for Cars) lists two 2012s for $36K. Of course, I think these cars are just collectible enough that it would be wrong to mod them, or even install an aftermarket stereo, but that's just me.

In 2014, I think Boss 302s are B-Street, and Laguna Secas are Super Street (ouch, tough class)

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