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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:11 pm 
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@Steven, sorry I told Paul DSP for the TR250 but I didn't have time to look it up. I think we need to have a copy of the solo rules on the bus and I think that the driver should be responsible for figuring it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:30 pm 
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Agreed....I thought DSP too until I checked the book. I should probably double-check Novice entries for class/numbering too.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:40 pm 
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@Steven, sorry I told Paul DSP for the TR250 but I didn't have time to look it up. I think we need to have a copy of the solo rules on the bus and I think that the driver should be responsible for figuring it out.


I thought it was just part of T&S process to down load the current solo rules from the SCCA site?

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
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RodneyWright wrote:
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@Steven, sorry I told Paul DSP for the TR250 but I didn't have time to look it up. I think we need to have a copy of the solo rules on the bus and I think that the driver should be responsible for figuring it out.


I thought it was just part of T&S process to down load the current solo rules from the SCCA site?

It very well may be, but it's never utilized, nor does Mary/Carlton have the time to delve through it 20+ times in the morning of the event. I think for people who don't know their class and Mary doesn't know immediately off the top of her head (or whoever is doing registration), then they should be handed the rule book to find out and then get back on the bus when they are ready. I mean, honestly, I know the rules pretty extensively and normally she can radio me a quick description of the car and mod(s) and I can figure it out, but it's not sustainable. We can probably link the rules on the registration page and on the FB events to try to mitigate this.

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The M6 that showed up got me interested in its class since I seriously doubt it should be in SS given its weight and size, etc. I thought I had seen it classified in B-stock in the past. I just looked at the 2013 rules, and it is not even listed. Anywhere. Technically, I think it might default to "6 series" that is listed in F-stock? The main 2013 rulebook shows the E60 M5 in B-stock (yeah, sure, a 40xx lbs, huge beast of a car running in an autocross course against an S2000?) which is insane in itself, but it's closely related to the M6 with the M6 being a bit smaller, lighter, etc. In the supplement to the 2013 rules with just the car classes, the E60 M5 is not listed in B-stock or any class. Weird.

Confusing as hell. If I was the M6 guy, I'd class myself in F-stock since I don't think you can show where it is otherwise classed, and it is a BMW "6 series". :?

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:42 pm 
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I seem to be missing my 5th run from Sat? I also don't remember coning away that 4th run, but stranger things have happened... =)

BTW, thanks for posting these up!!

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
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Rodney, so you are saying that you did indeed take 5 runs? And was that scratch time for run 4 correct, and do you recall it being your fastest? If it was clean then that moves you up to 6th place... Do you by chance have video of the run?


We will check on / correct the following items:

(Sunday) Paul Morrow reclass to FSP
(Saturday) BMW M6 reclass to FS
(Saturday) Rodney's 5th run missing; 4th run possibly clean?


Anything else? Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
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Zach Hill wrote:
Rodney, so you are saying that you did indeed take 5 runs? And was that scratch time for run 4 correct, and do you recall it being your fastest? If it was clean then that moves you up to 6th place... Do you by chance have video of the run?


We will check on / correct the following items:

(Sunday) Paul Morrow reclass to FSP
(Saturday) BMW M6 reclass to FS
(Saturday) Rodney's 5th run missing; 4th run possibly clean?


Anything else? Thanks!


Yeah, I want to trade my official times for my fun run times both days...I'm sure I have them here somewhere :lol:

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Zach Hill wrote:
We will check on / correct the following items:

(Sunday) Paul Morrow reclass to FSP
(Saturday) BMW M6 reclass to FS
(Saturday) Rodney's 5th run missing; 4th run possibly clean?


Anything else? Thanks!


I was just guessing on the M6 classing. I did find this link about it that isn't much clearer, but I do think the case can be made that "if the E60 M5 is in B-stock, then the M6 should at least be in that class too". :?

http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/aft/441063

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
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All my times seem to have about 1.5s extra on them as well. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
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I wasn't indicating I would change Rodney's (or anybody else's) times... I was indicating that we would look at the audit sheets again and see if anything stood out. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:02 pm 
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I seem to be picking up a lot of passengers now which is cool. I wonder if anybody got a picture of me powersliding up the hill on the Sunday course? I forgot to turn the air conditioner off on my fast runs, but at least the car was comfortable.

Thanks Jerry Maloney for the Saturday ride and thanks Rob Lupella for the Sunday ride. It sure was a fiasco getting to the site Friday but you guys made the weekend great. Good cars too!

There are several novices that are getting fast, they'll fit right in next year in open classes.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:38 pm 
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Thanks to everyone who did the work for this event!!!!

I think the courses were as "quick" and as "long" as possible given the site size without making each run 2 laps. The site was utilized very well. Too bad it is so small.

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 Post subject: Re: Points #6 & #7 Jimmy V 7/20-21 - now with 100% more poin
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Here were my two best runs. Pretty disappointed in both of them, especially Sunday's. On my other runs I ran every element better at one time or another but completely blew it at at least one spot (usually the hard turn before the 'V slalom') to erase all the improvement on that run.


Saturday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3YyQRROZA

Sunday
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Putting it all into perspective:

Guys and gals, I often forget that so many participants were either very young or not even born yet during Jimmy Valvano’s time. I’m going to bs for a bit about that time because, well, I guess that's what old people do. It’s hard to fathom it’s been 30 years since he burst forth onto the national scene coaching the Wolfpack to that impossible national championship. My wife and I got married in 1981 at the end of our junior year at NC State, and we were both in graduate school there in the Spring of 1983 – her in Industrial Engineering and me in Mechanical.

I recall being over on 15-501 in Durham one Friday afternoon in March of 1983, fantasy car shopping for the day when we’d be out in the real world making money, and hearing that State had beaten Wake by a point in the first game of the ACC Tournament to advance in what everyone assumed was a fluke win. The next day when they beat UNC in OT with Michael Jordon on the team and all, we all knew it was a fluke and of course would be over the next day against Virginia with Sampson. But Valvano pulled off a 3rd upset allowing NCSU into the NCAA tournament. Nobody I knew believed this was going to last another game, two at most. Nobody had yet really heard of Jimmy V except in the ACC where he was thought of as sort of an “out there” guy with a lot of charisma.

Making a long story short, over the ensuing games in the tournament where basically “everyone knew” State was a goner in the next game each step of the way (and often even with a minute left in each game), an amazing thing happened. People started to believe in the underdog, that hard work, preparation, skill, and perseverance might actually work. The inspiration that flowed from the State team and Jimmy V that year was catching and life-changing for many people, me included.

When they met up with Virginia just a short time later in the final eight, again, “everyone knew” that there was no possible way NC State could beat them (and Sampson) a second time. I was at a THSCC autocross that Sunday at the old Rocky Mount Airport, and at the trophy presentations a lot of folks were trying to move things along since the game was in progress. As I got in the car to head home, State was down by like 8 points, so “I knew” it was over. Yet again, they pulled off a miracle win by 1 point to advance to the Final Four. I was celebrating driving down US64 toward Raleigh barely able to keep the car on the road. :o

We lived in The Shire apartments on Gorman St about 2 miles from campus, and when they won the title game a week later, we could hear this huge and on-going roar coming from campus. We debated whether or not to head over there, but I suppose we were already fuddy-duddy old married people by then. The next morning I recall walking across the brickyard with a constant “crunch, crunch, crunch” from the broken glass littering the place. There were burned hulks of couch springs from all the furniture that was dragged out of the DH Hill library and burned in the bon fire and an overturned Dodge Polaris (or similar beast from the 70s).

What wasn’t visible though was this amazing energy that infected everyone on campus that day and for a good while into the future. My professor I worked for (Dr Michael Boles, now a Professor Emeritus at State) and I were involved in some very trying research on a V/STOL engine inlet design for an F-15 fighter, but we approached it with a renewed vigor and enthusiasm that morning and the ensuing weeks. For me it was like a turning point that day in a way as I was really determined to figure this stuff out and reach the goals we had in front of us. Heck, after what Valvano had just accomplished with the State team, anything must be possible, right? (that was the mood at the time, and I tell ya, it was infectious beyond description -- I just have these feelings still inside me that are hard to describe but are inspiring this missive).

Jimmy Valvano continued his inspirational coaching, words and message but now people actually believed in him and paid attention to him more so than ever. The V Foundation is a fitting tribute to his legacy *especially* since it is a charity where the administration expenses are funded by a foundation grant such that 100% of donations actually go to cancer research. I just wish he was still around as I’m sure we could convince him to come out to our event...and have a blast. That we would all gather together to honor his legacy in such a fun, competitive event while donating proceeds to V Foundation is a fitting tribute to him. :)

Thanks to Brice and everyone else for putting together yet another great Jimmy V event! I wish I could have made it on Sunday though. :(

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