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Fun weekend, good weather. Thx everyone for putting it together and having a great turn out.

Here is my fastest run, 45.271.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhxRyDP ... e=youtu.be

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1994 STS Miata

Agreed!

Kraig, when you get a chance, can you give some feedback on Rival v R1R? Obviously the short answer is "rivals are faster" but some cool data from that SoloStorm device would be cool to see if it was uniformly faster, or made you faster in tight transitions vs sweepers etc. Thanks!

Obligatory posting of Karl putting the beat-down on me....

http://youtu.be/CncnDI-9MpU

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Steve Carter
1972 Datsun 240Z-- resto pics at http://picasaweb.google.com/srcartermd
2007 GPW Honda S2000-- STR 86

This was definitely a good send off to Danville for tyool 2013. Can't wait to drive on those smooth Danville highways in 2014.

Big thanks to Carlton for letting me warm his tires.

No doubt. Today was one of my favorite courses I've driven at Danville. It flowed really, really well, was fast without being crazy, and I especially enjoyed the finish. Something different but not just different for the sake of being clever.

My second event back after 1.5 years away and it's just like old times back in the heyday of A-Stock and B-Stock. I can have a really good day, and get a pretty strong time in the overall standings, and STILL not trophy in class. You guys have all gotten really fast.

Steve's car was unbelievably good today. I've learned that if I'm going to stand any chance of being at the pointy end of STR, I'm going to need to be aggressive from the start. No recon runs, so I'll have to do a better job of taking proper course walks. I feel like if I hadn't gone so softly on my first one or even first two, maybe I'd have cleaned up my fast one. Or not. +3 is a lot of cleanup.



That's hardly a beatdown. I made my eyes hurt looking at the video over and over again. Interesting, and a little depressing even, to see how many of the places where I thought I was full throttle, I wasn't.

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Karl S.
2014 Baby, 2014 House, 2013 Ford Focus ST, 2013 BMW 328i, 1994 Mercedes E320
(Insert passive aggressive signature line here)

You're welcome! I think it took about 6 runs before they reached their peak temperature, because on the car's seventh run, I managed to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6jfVdL5gI

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2017 THSCC Autocross Chief of Timing and Scoring

03 Nissan Altima
02 Honda S2000

I want to thank everyone involved this weekend: Rob and Steve, all the Novice School instructors, the ECs, WCs, T&S, VPs and GM. The weekend went amazingly well (up until the last minute but we'll get that fixed and make it such that it won't happen again). The weather was great despite being a bit chilly since the wind wasn't as constant as the weather forecasted.

I saw A LOT of Novices on Saturday who probably dropped their times on the 2 courses by 50% or more which is fantastic. Lots of smiles, no incidents. My favorite parts: driving the Caterham despite stalling 3 times at the line and the fact that Barbara, my other student, said "let's just turn off all of the stability and traction control...I want to get sideways" on her last couple runs .

Sunday came with 95 drivers, we got 5 runs and were basically wrapped up by 4:15pm. The course was very fun. I really felt like it didn't walk nearly as fun as it drove. Props to the ECs for that finish part on the dark asphalt because I had a blast driving it. I feel like I drove a slightly different line through it each time but none of them felt that much faster or slower...very technical set of elements.

I want to give a special thanks to Drew O'Neil as he was the only person who went out on the course after the event to help pack up the WHOLE course worth of cones in his VW Golf hatcback. It was a site to be seen when he got back to the bus with all those cones.

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2011/2012 Autox VP
2013/2014.5 President
2013 Top Gun

2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

Looks like a fun course, sorry I missed it even in the Arctic weather. I had much more fun packing my garage and painting my house... Not!

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'07, '08, '11 Autocross VP
'06, '10 Mike Dishman Cup
'21 MX5, '13 Corvette GS, '92 Corvette 383 c.i. 413whp/390wtq, '03 Expedition

It was defintely good to get out in the new car at a great event! Challenging course that I had a hard time with. I didnt do a good job with my visual cues on key cones in the section near the crossover. I'll chalk it up to rust Still had a blast seeing lots old friends.

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02 Focus SVT
STF 9

My gut says they have about the same Longitudinal grip. I don't want to say they have more or less being first day on them and they have not been scrubbed in, those run were the scrub in period. I do think they have more Lateral grip, but unfortunately my last couple of runs did not show up on the data logger. (This is not the first time where run are deleted from solostorm) There was more inside wheel spin with the rivals, which I think are due to the tread pattern, and the more body lean due to more lateral grip. My initial thought is up the spring rate to counter the increased grip.

As for feel, they act like the Toyo, in that they like slip angle. (or my car likes slip angle as well as my driving style) They felt like toyo with more grip. In contrast, the Z2 had amazing turn in. I'm not used to that and don't like it. I was all over the place on timing with the Z2, hitting turn in cones left and right. With the Rival, they complement my style of turning early to get the car sliding around cones. People have said that the Z2 have a fast, peaky grip, I would agree. As for the Rivals, they have a wider grip sweat spot that takes just a bit more time to get there, meaning less initial response than the Z2. This isn't a bad thing if you like this characteristic.

To be fair, the Z2 take scrubbing in and runs to become fast, so they may be just as fast as the Rival. After yesterday, I'm going with Rival due to Contingency, driving style, and wear.

My only wish is that the tread pattern was the R1R's, then they would have more Longitudinal grip and thus less inside wheel spin.

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1994 STS Miata

Thanks to everyone who helped with this event. ESPECIALLY the STUDENTS and INSTRUCTORS. You all helped work through the early morning chaos and make the school run smoothly. I hope that all of the students come back for more fun to other events.

Thanks also to the course design committee. We had the idea of a couple of sweepers for the finish and Kraig did a great job of getting them spaced out to be challenging. The Chicago box was the other big challenge to get right so it wasn't in the way of spinning cars and not tooooo tight.

Rob

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1990 Faded Reddish CSP Lite Miata
2002 Electron Blue Corvette Z06
2005 Mazda 6 Wagon
2003 Nissan Pathfinder DTV (Dog Transport Vehicle)

I had a good time out there for sure and glad we got almost 100 drivers out to play. Thanks to all that made it happen!
The course was fun, super challenging especially with the finish section, and a little humbling with the cold tires on the first run. I'm not sure if spinning a new car on the first turn of the first run is a good thing but now I know not to lift!

Here's video of my last run and critique/criticism welcomed. It's going to take an event or two to get used to 'normal' steering compared to the ridiculously fast/awesome turn-in of the S2000.

See y'all at NCCAR and don't forget your sunglasses as it will be sunny and warm this time.

So running tally of spins on first run:

Gwen
Matt McGrain
James Short


Who else?

I don't think Jeremy or Robert Plank spun....amazing!

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2011/2012 Autox VP
2013/2014.5 President
2013 Top Gun

2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

I did not spin.................Sunday

That would be the first day I've run the BRZ that I didn't end up pointed the wrong way at some point.

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OK so I'm back in. Now which tire should I buy??

Scott Johnson went agricultural, I'm guessing there was a spin involved in that. . .

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2012 MX-5 Sport SUV

Hey now, a spin would be 360 degrees. I underachieved, I only went about 180. That means I turned, and drove into the grass backwards. At some point soon, I'll post the in-car to prove my point.