event #2 and EV challenge

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:18 pm

Can we just dump the text of the results in this thread?

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

Sure, I can do that tomorrow. Sorry about the delays.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:40 pm

just curious...I thought the Cobalt SS at the event was a turbocharged one, and would be in STX, not STF. Even if non-turbo, it would be STS, (normally aspirated <3.1liter displacement NOC), no?

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:50 pm

Steven Carter wrote:

just curious...I thought the Cobalt SS at the event was a turbocharged one, and would be in STX, not STF. Even if non-turbo, it would be STS, (normally aspirated <3.1liter displacement NOC), no?

He has run stu, dsp, ds, stx and stf since he's started autocrossing. Mary indicates he lies to her about having a turbo. He's obviously confused

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noahfleming · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:02 pm

JamesShort wrote:

On my final run (58.4xx) I did the VDA section VERY well compared to my first 4 runs which basically meant patience and minimal dorifto and tame throttle modulation. Then I get to the slalom and try to squeeze an extra 3-4 mph out and get very late by the 4th cone and have to damn near stop before the c-box since I knew the run was good and not worth coning so I bog from 2500ish rpms through the cbox to the finish without even having to go to 3rd and yet the time was good. I'm pretty sure Jeremy's car had low 57s in it.

On my fastest run, I was hitting 50/56 the first pass and 54/58 the second pass. In the slaloms i entered around 46 and had to gradually slow down to 42 as I got a little late and had to compensate by left foot braking a little. It was a freaking ballerina dance driving that car, setup that way, in those conditions. http://goo.gl/xS6Aw

JamesShort wrote:

Steven Carter wrote:

just curious...I thought the Cobalt SS at the event was a turbocharged one, and would be in STX, not STF. Even if non-turbo, it would be STS, (normally aspirated <3.1liter displacement NOC), no?

He has run stu, dsp, ds, stx and stf since he's started autocrossing. Mary indicates he lies to her about having a turbo. He's obviously confused

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He said he took all the mods off, but it didn't sound like it when he was on the course. We need to print out the current classing rules for cars and have it in the bus at all times. I don't know classing for every car and I don't think anyone else here does either.

Andrew Jonell · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:43 pm **Posts:** 1350

A Cobalt SS can't be a STF car; The Mazda2, Fit, Mini Non-S are STF cars.

Plus the PAX for STF is something like .749. A Cobalt SS is in DS, iirc.

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:45 am

2009 Cobalt SSs are turbocharged from the factory. Assuming he's stock DS is where he should be, STX if he has suspension mods.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:27 am

He has a blow off valve and intercooler piping so he's technically in SMF (or maybe DSP?).

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:36 am

One of the film crew that was covering the EV challenge on Sat, stayed on Sunday and covered part of our autox. Here's the link. Many thanks to Jeff Wilson for posting up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iewq8xA3yLw

Here is some additional info given to me via Eric Ryan, the guy that ran the EV event this weekend.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hello All,

One of our new partners in the EV Challenge, Ben Harris at Harris Educational, just sent me a link to his photos and a great five-minute video of the event on Saturday. (He was at the event on Saturday only; there is no footage from Sunday.) Thanks, Ben! Here are the links...

Photo Gallery from the Event: (125 Annotated Photographs) at the Harris Educational Fan Page Wall

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 101&type=1

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 101&type=1
(you should be able to view the photos even if you don't have a facebook account)

A Video I've made from clips I took about my experience at the event:

http://youtu.be/IqsGhsh7yO8

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ben Harris at Harris Educational just told me that we were a subject of a Forbes Magazine blog. Check it out:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/201 ... tric-cars/

TJ McCue is the blogger that wrote this piece. Thanks to Ben for getting this information to him!

TJ even mentions McMichael HS by name.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:47 am

JamesMilko wrote:

2009 Cobalt SSs are turbocharged from the factory. Assuming he's stock DS is where he should be, STX if he has suspension mods.

<---not a bowtie guy, but IIRC some were supercharged, later they were turbo. Wasn't sure if he claimed to have de-turboed the car when he stated he had "taken all the mods off", but my point is that even a base Cobalt is STC, not STF. (oops....misstated STS in my first post. Sorry.)

+1 on having a copy of car classes accessible to the registrar(s).

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:59 am

aaaaaaaa we aren't the SCCA.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:27 am

JamesMilko wrote:

aaaaaaaa we aren't the SCCA.

huh?

No, but according to THSCC rules
"8. Classes Supported
8.1. THSCC will support the classes as defined in the current SCCA® Solo II® Rules unless otherwise published here or for a specific event. "

Of note, we apparently still disallow karts, but that's a bit of a digression....

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:13 pm

Should have been clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iewq8xA3yLw

Quote:

Who says horsepower and water don't mix? Well- pretty much everybody. And here's proof....
The Tarheel SCCA club held an autocross at the NCCAR track near Roanoke Rapids, NC in the cold rain on 4/22/12. There was lot's of slip-slidin' around....

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:20 pm

JamesMilko wrote:

Should have been clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iewq8xA3yLw

Quote:

Who says horsepower and water don't mix? Well- pretty much everybody. And here's proof....
The Tarheel SCCA club held an autocross at the NCCAR track near Roanoke Rapids, NC in the cold rain on 4/22/12. There was lot's of slip-slidin' around....

ah, got it. :thumbsup:

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

Raw results:

Raw Pos. Pos. Class # Driver Car Model Raw Time Diff. From 1st
1 1 str 80 Jeremy Ellison 2006 Honda S2000 58.273 0.000 0.000
2 1 ds 15 Brice Johnson 2006 Mini Cooper S JCW 58.442 0.169 0.169
3 2 str 0 James Short 2006 Honduh S2200 58.474 0.032 0.201
4 3 str 52 Carlton Whitehead 1999 Mazda Miata 58.918 0.444 0.645
5 1 tirgs 95 Shawn Whipple 2007 Honda Civic Si 59.075 0.157 0.802
6 4 str 78 Matt McGrain 2004 Honda S2000 59.087 0.012 0.814
7 5 str 44 Noah Fleming 2002 Honda S2000 59.095 0.008 0.822
8 2 ds 5 Maria Winslow 2007 Mini Cooper S 59.254 0.159 0.981
9 6 str 3 Zach Hill 2002 Honda S2000 60.012 0.758 1.739
10 7 str 86 Steven Carter 2007 Honda S2000 60.276 0.264 2.003
11 3 ds 1 Mary Johnson 2006 Mini Cooper S JCW 60.316 0.040 2.043
12 1 bs 48 Ray Hartney 2000 Honda S2000 60.440 0.124 2.167
13 1 fs 30 Arthur McDonald Ford Mustang GT 61.239 0.799 2.966
14 1 stx 86 Lee Williams 1998 BMW 328 62.072 0.833 3.799
15 8 str 5 Matthew Elks 2001 Honda S2000 62.391 0.319 4.118
16 1 cs 99 Christian Molenaer 1999 mazda miata 62.866 0.475 4.593
17 1 csp 46 James Milko 1997 Unreliable Miata 62.928 0.062 4.655
18 6 novstr 11 Kenneth Butron 2006 Honda s2000 63.056 0.128 4.783
19 1 novstf 8 Danier Swain 2009 Cobalt SS 63.403 0.347 5.130
20 2 cs 14 Michael Miller 2006 Mazda MX5 63.447 0.044 5.174
21 2 stx 17 Keith Q 2004 Mazda rx8 63.504 0.057 5.231
22 4 tircp 94 Phillip Mills 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 63.519 0.015 5.246
23 2 novhs 949 Aaron George 2007 Saab 9-5 63.767 0.248 5.494
24 1 stu 54 Matthew Duncan 1986 Volvo 740 63.791 0.024 5.518
25 2 bs 8 Vanessa Perry 2000 Honda S2000 64.223 0.432 5.950
26 3 novhs 999 Silas George 2007 Saab 9-5 64.297 0.074 6.024
27 9 str 521 Ram Vennam 1999 Mazda Miata 64.325 0.028 6.052
28 3 tiresp 8 Rodney Wright 08 ford bullitt 64.495 0.170 6.222
29 11 novbs 0 Jordan Smith 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 64.720 0.225 6.447
30 12 novbsp 99 Matt Kata 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 64.786 0.066 6.513
31 5 novhs 6 Andrew George 2002 Ford Focus SVT 64.941 0.155 6.668
32 8 novstx 46 Anthony Rossi 2005 Volkswagen Jetta 65.025 0.084 6.752
33 3 cs 1 Anders Miller 2006 Mazda Miata 65.143 0.118 6.870
34 2 tirhs 62 Chris Suich 2012 Nissan Leaf 65.156 0.013 6.883
35 9 novds 21 Ilia Smirnov 2007 Mini Cooper S 65.324 0.168 7.051
36 4 novstf 26 Drew ONeill 1996 Volkswagen GTI VR6 65.726 0.402 7.453
37 7 novhs 16 Kenneth George 2002 Ford Focus SVT 65.987 0.261 7.714
38 7 tirsm 4 Steve Buus 1991 Toyota MR2 66.304 0.317 8.031
39 14 novcp 69 Michael Finney 2006 mazda mx5 66.445 0.141 8.172
40 6 tircsp 98 Bennett Satterwhite 1995 Miata 66.868 0.423 8.595
41 5 tirgs 247 Steven Spampinato 2006 Scuderia MeatBall-Honda Civic SI Coupe 67.144 0.276 8.871
42 16 novas 323 Ryan King 2005 Mazda RX-8 Shinka 68.199 1.055 9.926
43 1 ss 13 Rob Lupella 2002 Chevy Corvette Z06 68.216 0.017 9.943
44 10 novstf 81 Alex Skomra 2006 Lanser 68.361 0.145 10.088
45 1 dsp 5 Charles Guthrie 1987 BMW 325is resurrected 68.443 0.082 10.170
46 1 es 77 Casey Dhalin 1990 Miata 68.948 0.505 10.675
47 1 ofcsp 8 Neal Harrington 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 69.280 0.332 11.007
48 15 noves 77 Lewis Norton 1990 Miata 69.378 0.098 11.105
49 17 novcs 23 Christopher Vasques 2001 Mazda Miata 69.560 0.182 11.287
50 13 novhs 212 Gabriel Michel 1996 Acura Integra 70.112 0.552 11.839
51 18 novdsp 7 Jeremy Roszko 1997 Honda Prelude SH 70.519 0.407 12.246
52 19 novds 100 Ron Zacharia 2004 BMW 330ci 73.054 2.535 14.781
53 2 dsp 51 Pete Guthrie 1987 bmw 325is 73.388 0.334 15.115
54 20 novstr 63 James Gimes 2008 350Z 77.959 4.571 19.686

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