Autocross the Family Hauler!

Patrice Bousquet · **Posted:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:59 pm

This is interesting, Kathy is driving a Nissan Juke since last Saturday and really like it.
According to the SCCA SSF chart it is outside the acceptable range like the Nissan Versa, the Honda Fit, the Fiat 500 and others.
The Mazda 5 is outside the range, his SSF is not 1.30 but 1.230, the Mazda 2 is 1.30

Here some car with their #

Nissan Juke track 60" height 61.8" SSF 1.262
Nissan Versa track 58.3" height 60.4" SSF 1.254
Honda Fit track 58.1" height 60" SSF 1.258
Fiat 500 track 55.4" height 59.8" SSF 1,204
Subaru Forester track 60.2" height 65.9" SSF 1.187
Mazda 5 track 60.2" height 63.6" SSF 1.230
Mazda 2 track 58.1" height 58.1 SSF 1.300
Ford Fiesta track 57.7" height 58" SSF 1.293

The Juke is not that bad after all, it is even better than the Versa and the Fit.

If she decided to give a try would you let her try it at an AX?
Which class will it be?

Aaron McCurdy · **Joined:** Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:17 pm **Posts:** 21

BriceJohnson wrote:

she looked like she had fun in it too. In the afternoon session, she was tearing up the untimed course. Her and Anders must have gotten in 20 runs a piece during that session.

Yep. If I had to choose something to haul the family and autocross, I'd choose it again, we really didn't intend for it to be an autocrosser but it happened anyway LOL.. I'd rather have the turbo'd XT, but they were $6K more, and she really doesn't need the extra tickets..err.. horsepower LOL.

I'm assuming that it's classed in HS, under Subaru-NOC. The XT falls into DS with the WRX, but hers is not an XT, it is an X Premium, which is Subaru's way of saying "base model" lol.

Steven Spampinato · **Posted:** Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:13 am

BriceJohnson wrote:

really? OK then, I would let one run on race tires. In the lack of official confirmation that its not on the exclusion list, I would use my best judgement, which tells me pretty much anything is ok on street tires, and very few people are going to show up and run a truck/SUV/Van on race tires. Although I HAVE seen a trailblazer and a Tacoma truck run on race tires before (Trailblazer SS has a classification as ESP and the X-runner is allowed in H-stock). Those cars scared me to watch.

I did an autocross in 2002 with the Western New York SCCA, and a guy towed in his Mustang to the event with his F150. The mustang would not start for some reason, so he took his Hoosiers off his Mustang and put them on the F150. The truck looked ridiculous but the guy was surprisingly quick with it!

Steven Spampinato · **Posted:** Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:18 am

Patrice Bousquet wrote:

This is interesting, Kathy is driving a Nissan Juke since last Saturday and really like it.
According to the SCCA SSF chart it is outside the acceptable range like the Nissan Versa, the Honda Fit, the Fiat 500 and others.
The Mazda 5 is outside the range, his SSF is not 1.30 but 1.230, the Mazda 2 is 1.30

Here some car with their #

Nissan Juke track 60" height 61.8" SSF 1.262
Nissan Versa track 58.3" height 60.4" SSF 1.254
Honda Fit track 58.1" height 60" SSF 1.258
Fiat 500 track 55.4" height 59.8" SSF 1,204
Subaru Forester track 60.2" height 65.9" SSF 1.187
Mazda 5 track 60.2" height 63.6" SSF 1.230
Mazda 2 track 58.1" height 58.1 SSF 1.300
Ford Fiesta track 57.7" height 58" SSF 1.293

The Juke is not that bad after all, it is even better than the Versa and the Fit.

If she decided to give a try would you let her try it at an AX?
Which class will it be?

Did they have a date range on the five? I think the overall wheel base is widder on the current generation.

Patrice Bousquet · **Posted:** Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:32 am

For the 5 I took the measurements from the link below.

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/display ... leCode=MZ5

For my calculation I took the track and the height like the graphic show in the SCCA 2012 book.
The real SSF base on the center of gravity is probably better.

Pete Guthrie · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:48 pm

autocrossing our family hauler would be funny as hell. Our family hauler is a 5k lb ford f250 turbodiesel four door.
I ran it through the rallycross course one time in the rain, that was funny! powersliding something that big, is scary!
But actually having traction, in something that tall, would be rather slow and dangerous.. As to it only has 215 hp for 5 or 6 thousand pounds. Later models had a intercooler and had much more power. Our truck also has a open rear end too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkt78Uco ... plpp_video

this guy autocrossed a cummins dually. nice driving for however much this thing weighs.

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