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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:12 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:42 am 
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Well.

I appreciate decreasing slaloms. They are like decreasing radius turn on a road course - you have to get your entry speed right and you have to be patient.

Slaloms vs sweepers? I learned to autocross with THSCC, mostly on airstrip courses, so I have a lot more experience with slaloms than anything else. I don't claim to be really good at them, but I don't get surprised by them that often. I seem to have to have ongoing issues with long sweepers: I recall a miserable pro-solo at VMP in the 90's where my poor old 5.0 hopped around like crazy on the pavement ripples that crossed the sweepers at the ends of the course. Enough time has passed for me to admit that I finished dead last (or 10 spots behind Lynn Rothney-Kozlak) in FS that day, but I still hold the grudge: DEATH TO SWEEPERS!

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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:03 am 
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Steve's problem is his own, and was of his own making. After the novice year he started with the attitude that the courses were too cone intensive and thats why he didn't stack up as well as his contemporaries. His real problem is that he never learned how to do a real course walk and determine which cones were relevant and those that were not. Newbs stare at the course and say it's a sea of cones, Steve still says this after six years. After all these years he still doesn't realize there are only three elements in a course, slaloms,corners and sweepers. And in that "sea of cones" only 1/10 of them are relevant. He never liked autox and he never will, unless he's willing to to learn. And as you can tell he's not willing to learn, he wants you to conform to his distorted view of autox. If he thinks our events are a sea of cones he needs to go to Lincoln or any national event for that matter. We elected him drunken poster of the year and he's living up to it.
This club runs and sets up courses as good as any club in the three states that I've autox'ed in, and better than most.
And this rant is just MHO. I may be wrong but I doubt it. Keep up the good work THSCC.

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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:57 am 
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Arthur McDonald wrote:
Well.

I appreciate decreasing slaloms. They are like decreasing radius turn on a road course - you have to get your entry speed right and you have to be patient.

Slaloms vs sweepers? I learned to autocross with THSCC, mostly on airstrip courses, so I have a lot more experience with slaloms than anything else. I don't claim to be really good at them, but I don't get surprised by them that often. I seem to have to have ongoing issues with long sweepers: I recall a miserable pro-solo at VMP in the 90's where my poor old 5.0 hopped around like crazy on the pavement ripples that crossed the sweepers at the ends of the course. Enough time has passed for me to admit that I finished dead last (or 10 spots behind Lynn Rothney-Kozlak) in FS that day, but I still hold the grudge: DEATH TO SWEEPERS!


I agree Art, I don't have a problem with decreasing slaloms, THEY ARE NOT DECEPTIVE IF YOU WALK THE COURSE. ;-) (I like increasing ones too).

Steve, if you don't think a station wagon can autocross ask the Alien about AXing one quickly or doing so in a truck. :shock:

Most of our courses are not "sea of cones", some are. It depends on who designed it, what they were looking to do and how much experience they have. We are also limited by narrow sites and small lots. Many of the "AX's" you see on the internet are on some huge venue and quite frankly a lot of them look fun, but not too technically challenging

You don't AX well, because you don't try, don't walk the course, don't walk the course, and/or can't decypher the course, and/or it doesn't fit your skill set. You do better on track probably because you don't have to remember where the track goes and when you do, it whacks you upside the head so you remember.

No one is going to take you seriously and most will get annoyed with you. Your goal, I'm sure is to yank chains, and I get it but you are like a train wreck, that no matter how much you know to just drive by there is something that makes someone need to respond. However, if you don't put your time where your mouth (cursor) is, then just don't come, drop the kid off and leave. Just sayin'

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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:51 am 
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Bernie Baake wrote:
Steve's problem is his own, and was of his own making. After the novice year he started with the attitude that the courses were too cone intensive and thats why he didn't stack up as well as his contemporaries. His real problem is that he never learned how to do a real course walk and determine which cones were relevant and those that were not. Newbs stare at the course and say it's a sea of cones, Steve still says this after six years. After all these years he still doesn't realize there are only three elements in a course, slaloms,corners and sweepers. And in that "sea of cones" only 1/10 of them are relevant. He never liked autox and he never will, unless he's willing to to learn. And as you can tell he's not willing to learn, he wants you to conform to his distorted view of autox. If he thinks our events are a sea of cones he needs to go to Lincoln or any national event for that matter. We elected him drunken poster of the year and he's living up to it.
This club runs and sets up courses as good as any club in the three states that I've autox'ed in, and better than most.
And this rant is just MHO. I may be wrong but I doubt it. Keep up the good work THSCC.

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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:39 pm 
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Since this thread sort of went to shit, I thought I should clarify. The NCCAR event is still scheduled for the 15th and 16th (sorry Art).

As to which day is which (Points event versus Circuitcross), I propose that we do the points event on Saturday and the circuitcross on Sunday for logistical reasons. Post objections below for consideration.

Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:02 pm 
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BriceJohnson wrote:
Since this thread sort of went to shit, I thought I should clarify. The NCCAR event is still scheduled for the 15th and 16th (sorry Art).

As to which day is which (Points event versus Circuitcross), I propose that we do the points event on Saturday and the circuitcross on Sunday for logistical reasons. Post objections below for consideration.

Thanks.


I'm okay with that. We can't start making loud noises until noon on sunday, right?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:26 pm 
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There is a one hour quiet time from 11-12, but anytime other than that is ok.

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 Post subject: Re: Semi-non-official-sorta-kinda 2012 schedule
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:07 pm 
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BriceJohnson wrote:
Since this thread sort of went to shit...


Happens to a couple of threads every year about this time. People just auto-x stircrazy I'd say.

I'm game for whichever and if we can have fun in this weather there, I won't be disappointed either way.

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