OUTDATED 2012 schedule thread

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

The thing is, there are people who autox in VA. They would show up to take Remjob's place. All we have to do is promote it in their forums, email lists, etc.

And I would MUCH rather go to VMP than to that POS site in Charlotte. It's big enough, the surface doesn't cause terminal understeer around every corner and you don't have to sit in traffic for an hour every time you go to or leave the site.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:29 pm

Matt McGrain wrote:

So the 29th & 30th would be good because the race would probably impact turnout, right? Any objections to these dates for "NCCAR-F Autoxtravaganza", EV, and points event Sunday.

Also, could we gauge interest in heading to VMP for the last points event perhaps? Folks that went to the Chillycross this past weekend had a great report about the site, the grip, facilities and it's capabilities for course design. The downside is that it may be a touch further which might hurt the numbers.

Any thoughts?

VMP used to be on our schedule in 2002/2003 and we had good turnout. I know I would try to go.

Les Davis · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:04 pm **Posts:** 2059

Kevin Allen wrote:

The thing is, there are people who autox in VA. They would show up to take Remjob's place. All we have to do is promote it in their forums, email lists, etc.

And I would MUCH rather go to VMP than to that POS site in Charlotte. It's big enough, the surface doesn't cause terminal understeer around every corner and you don't have to sit in traffic for an hour every time you go to or leave the site.

This I can agree with.

RobLupella · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:25 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

JohnByers wrote:

http://www.americanlemans.com/primary1.php?cat=news

What to do in Sept.... What to do...

I'd rather be driving than watching.

My thoughts exactly.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:25 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

The thing is, there are people who autox in VA. They would show up to take Remjob's place. All we have to do is promote it in their forums, email lists, etc.

And I would MUCH rather go to VMP than to that POS site in Charlotte. It's big enough, the surface doesn't cause terminal understeer around every corner and you don't have to sit in traffic for an hour every time you go to or leave the site.

Remjob? well bite me asshole. now that we have the formalities over with, what is your point Kevin? target rich environment?

hunt some competition in something you aren't great in my fellow clubmember. then you can call me names in a public forum. asshole.

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

RobLupella wrote:

Kevin Allen wrote:

JohnByers wrote:

http://www.americanlemans.com/primary1.php?cat=news

What to do in Sept.... What to do...

I'd rather be driving than watching.

My thoughts exactly.

This just in -- http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120118/ALMS/120119828 --
which means we'll get exactly one chance to see the Pigout LMP1 in action at VIR. Except .. Grand Course. Doesn't that mean they won't take the uphill esses at ridiculous speed?

I know it's hard to put together an AX schedule. So if I have to make a choice between two entertainment activities... I'll have to make a choice. No real problem.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:57 pm

[quote="Arthur McDonaldThis just in -- http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120118/ALMS/120119828 --
which means we'll get exactly one chance to see the Pigout LMP1 in action at VIR. Except .. Grand Course. Doesn't that mean they won't take the uphill esses at ridiculous speed?

I know it's hard to put together an AX schedule. So if I have to make a choice between two entertainment activities... I'll have to make a choice. No real problem.[/quote]

Grand East includes the uphill esses Art. it drops into South Course on the backstretch and returns before T14.

JohnByers · **Posted:** Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:02 pm

Arthur McDonald wrote:

I know it's hard to put together an AX schedule. So if I have to make a choice between two entertainment activities... I'll have to make a choice. No real problem.

My thoughts exactly.

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

steve remchak wrote:

Kevin Allen wrote:

The thing is, there are people who autox in VA. They would show up to take Remjob's place. All we have to do is promote it in their forums, email lists, etc.

And I would MUCH rather go to VMP than to that POS site in Charlotte. It's big enough, the surface doesn't cause terminal understeer around every corner and you don't have to sit in traffic for an hour every time you go to or leave the site.

Remjob? well bite me asshole. now that we have the formalities over with, what is your point Kevin? target rich environment?

hunt some competition in something you aren't great in my fellow clubmember. then you can call me names in a public forum. asshole.

Drink another beer. It'll be okay.

Stephen Westerfield · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:30 am

Kevin Allen wrote:

And I would MUCH rather go to VMP than to that POS site in Charlotte. It's big enough, the surface doesn't cause terminal understeer around every corner and you don't have to sit in traffic for an hour every time you go to or leave the site.

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that's not in love with Z-max. That's definitely not a site I plan to visit again if it's the forecast is predicting anything below 60°.

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:52 am

Wow, i am suprised no one liked z-max. I loved the place, yes it was cold and there was little to no grip but i like the courses. All though the bruised ribs did hurt from that weekend for a while.

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:54 am

jeremy gast wrote:

Wow, i am suprised no one liked z-max. I loved the place, yes it was cold and there was little to no grip but i like the courses.

Sounds like the people who do track and say "I like driving in the rain". WTH? What car guy wants less grip and less speed? D1 doesn't count.

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:10 am

Your right VK sorry, I quess I liked it for the challenge and it being something different!

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

jeremy gast wrote:

Wow, i am suprised no one liked z-max. I loved the place, yes it was cold and there was little to no grip but i like the courses. All though the bruised ribs did hurt from that weekend for a while.

I liked Z-max also. Grip is low, but the site is HUGE.

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:50 am

I had a terrible time at Zmax in the summer my first time there to enjoy what 95 degrees on a dark surface, first time 'plowing' the front end of the Civic in two seasons, and Bud Light hangover) and wasn't ready for the 'Greenville grip' (rip G-Vegas), let's be honest - it's close, but when you realize it and adjust it's not THAT bad the second time out.

It's like a pivot cone, when you realize everyone has to deal with it, you become a little more patient (fast) getting through. There is something magical about a place with awesome grip though and if it doesn't induce to much tire wear = double win. (::cough:: NCCAR :::cough::)

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