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 Post subject: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:34 am 
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I want to thank Carlton for working on and completing this project. I'm sure T&S will appreciate not having people bugging them from now on.

While the 'warning' you must abide by when connecting seems a joke, we are completely honest in saying that until results are audited, they are truly unofficial and possibly wrong....so don't bug T&S.....particularly about cones or lack thereof.

I'm hoping Carlton will post on here some info about how to connect as I'm sure the hostname will be different than it was at the demo on Wednesday at the meeting. Also please mention about range and any other gotchas.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:56 am 
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It was very slick, user friendly and intuitive. Well thought out and seems to be a great addition--thanks Carlton!

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Does it have realtime two way messaging so we can ask them about come calls :D

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Does it link to the on-line membership data base yet?

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will it make me faster?

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:15 pm 
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JamesShort wrote:
I'm sure the hostname will be different than it was at the demo on Wednesday at the meeting. Also please mention about range and any other gotchas.

It will certainly be different.
1. Join the wireless access point named THSCC
2. Most likely the URL will be http://ts

These names are tentative until I have my hands on the TS laptop.

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we are completely honest in saying that until results are audited, they are truly unofficial and possibly wrong

+1 on this. This software can only read whatever is already in the AXware file. It can't divine whether someone in Timing and Scoring made a typo (it happens, we're human beings after all). That's why we have another person writing runs down by hand, and that's why there's an audit after runs are complete, before trophies.

MarcusMcRae wrote:
Does it have realtime two way messaging so we can ask them about come calls

One of the design goals was to minimize the involvement required of Timing & Scoring personnel. Don't pester them.

Vincent Keene wrote:
Does it link to the on-line membership data base yet?

No. It's designed to operate entirely without a connection to the public internet since the club doesn't have a wireless modem and most of our sites have poor cell coverage anyway. While you're connected to the THSCC wireless your phone apps that depend on a public internet connection (Facebook, email, web browsing, etc) probably won't work. Just disconnect from the THSCC wireless when you're finished looking at the results and everything will be back to normal.

KouroshNeshat wrote:
will it make me faster?

If it shows your competitor having a two-tenths lead on you, perhaps you'll be inspired to pick up the pace.

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:24 pm 
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Carlton Whitehead wrote:
Vincent Keene wrote:
Does it link to the on-line membership data base yet?

No. It's designed to operate entirely without a connection to the public internet since the club doesn't have a wireless modem and most of our sites have poor cell coverage anyway. While you're connected to the THSCC wireless your phone apps that depend on a public internet connection (Facebook, email, web browsing, etc) probably won't work. Just disconnect from the THSCC wireless when you're finished looking at the results and everything will be back to normal.


I think Carlton may be like Sheldon Cooper in that he needs a sarcasm sign to recognize it. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Vincent Keene wrote:
Carlton Whitehead wrote:
Vincent Keene wrote:
Does it link to the on-line membership data base yet?

No. It's designed to operate entirely without a connection to the public internet since the club doesn't have a wireless modem and most of our sites have poor cell coverage anyway. While you're connected to the THSCC wireless your phone apps that depend on a public internet connection (Facebook, email, web browsing, etc) probably won't work. Just disconnect from the THSCC wireless when you're finished looking at the results and everything will be back to normal.


I think Carlton may be like Sheldon Cooper in that he needs a sarcasm sign to recognize it. :lol:

In text media such as forums, I usually craft my replies to blatantly sarcastic comments with similarly blatant seriousness. ;)

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I can't update my facebooks while checking my times=fail.

Will it be a secure/private system?

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:00 pm 
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Which WiFi version(s)?

Anticipated range for smartphone reception?

Sounds GREAT!!! All I have to do is figure out how to steady my shaky hands enough between runs to deal with my Galaxy Nexus . . . :(

Is SCCA doing anything similar at Tours or Nats?

Thanks! :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Carlton Whitehead wrote:
In text media such as forums, I usually craft my replies to blatantly sarcastic comments with similarly blatant seriousness. ;)


Ahem......




Bahzinga.

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:27 pm 
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DickRasmussen wrote:
Which WiFi version(s)?

Anticipated range for smartphone reception?

Sounds GREAT!!! All I have to do is figure out how to steady my shaky hands enough between runs to deal with my Galaxy Nexus . . . :(

Is SCCA doing anything similar at Tours or Nats?

Thanks! :D :D

The router I'm planning to donate is a Linksys WRT54g flashed with DD-WRT firmware. It'll have an open network with no key required to connect. Range should be better than you would typically see in a home due to fewer walls. I'm hoping to find out during the February TnT.

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:39 pm 
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Carlton Whitehead wrote:
It'll have an open network with no key required to connect.


Is that safe? I am computer network illiterate but I never use public wifi for fear of getting hacked.

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 Post subject: Re: Autocross Instant Results for smartphones
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MarcusMcRae wrote:
Is that safe? I am computer network illiterate but I never use public wifi for fear of getting hacked.

Since this wireless access point won't be providing internet access, you won't be signing into your bank account, Facebook, other websites, etc.

Changing the network to a password-protected type wouldn't stop anyone with the network key and appropriate hardware/software within range from listening in on the network traffic anyway, due to the broadcast nature of 802.11 wireless networks. Since that password would have to be posted where anyone could see it, it wouldn't add any real security, just another hoop to jump through before you can see the coneage.

If we were to host the software on a website on the public internet, everyone would be dependent on their own cell provider's data coverage in order to reach it, and if the T&S laptop's data coverage flaked out, the results wouldn't stay up to date. But at least the guy standing next to you couldn't as easily sniff your requests to the T&S server and see whose results you were looking at, because of the switched network architecture in cell data networks. I think the minimal gain in theoretical security with this approach is drastically outweighed by the unpredictable experience it would provide. If all of our sites had great cell data coverage, I'd have a very different position on this.

tldr; if you want security theater, visit the TSA at an airport

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