STR in 2012

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:19 pm

Steven Carter wrote:

Not all 32mm bars are the same....

Yep, without a doubt

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The 30mm Blox FSB for the 06+ SI has about the same roll rate compared to the 32mm Eibach due to longer moment arms on the Eibach (and weighs 8lbs less). Perfect example of why comparing purely diameter is a poor way of figuring roll rate/performance.

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

Anything wrong with a 30mm whiteline? That's what I ordered through Janko today.

MarcusMcRae · **Posted:** Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:54 pm

I like my eibach bar. It made a big difference.

Stephen Westerfield · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:10 pm

Steven Carter wrote:

Stephen, how many adjustment holes will they make?

Not sure, but I'm sure we could probably make a request there to get what we want.

Zach Hill · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:58 pm

JasonWatts wrote:

Zack? I kbow little of what it takes to run the ap2 bumper. But wasnt there somethi g that needed to be shaved to make it fit? Would not changing the bumper cover to a differe t year still be legal providing you do not modify other aspects of the car to make it fit? Rechecking the rules on areo upgrades now.

Nitpicking I see... :poke:

Yes, an AP1 bumper bar must be cut on the corners to facilitate an AP2 bumper cover, otherwise it causes dimples to form in the plastic over time. See here: http://forums.s2kca.com/showpost.php?p= ... ostcount=9

So, technically this is illegal for STR? Would replacing the whole bumper bar with an AP2 part be legal?

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

If the rule book doesn't say you can do it, you can't do it, NOOB. :stick:

But I really doubt it will have any effect on how bad we all beat you, and I don't plan to protest you for it. And if anybody does, we should pee in his car.

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:18 pm

Is this STR legal? Wow. :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-Hon ... 519c2e6300

JasonWatts · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:01 am

Matt McGrain wrote:

Is this STR legal? Wow. :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-Hon ... 519c2e6300

someone spent alot of money to make their car look ugly... but to each their own.

JasonWatts · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:23 am

Zach Hill wrote:

JasonWatts wrote:

Zack? I kbow little of what it takes to run the ap2 bumper. But wasnt there somethi g that needed to be shaved to make it fit? Would not changing the bumper cover to a differe t year still be legal providing you do not modify other aspects of the car to make it fit? Rechecking the rules on areo upgrades now.

Nitpicking I see... :poke:

Yes, an AP1 bumper bar must be cut on the corners to facilitate an AP2 bumper cover, otherwise it causes dimples to form in the plastic over time. See here: http://forums.s2kca.com/showpost.php?p= ... ostcount=9

So, technically this is illegal for STR? Would replacing the whole bumper bar with an AP2 part be legal?

i don't think modifying the bumper bar is legal unless it is "installed as directed by the manufacturer".

That being said, I have no plan's to protest you. the 2 ounces you shaved in weight is not going to make any measurable difference in were you finish. However the added weight from someone peeing in your car might. :thumbsdown:

Quote:

F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:

1. It is a production part which is standard or optional equipment of a
US model of the vehilcle
2. It is listed in the vehicle manufacturer’s US accessory catalog for
that vehicle for normal highway use.
Parts must be installed as directed by the manufacturer. Exact repli-
cas (including weight) from alternate sources are also permitted.

MarcusMcRae · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:52 am

Kevin Allen wrote:

If the rule book doesn't say you can do it, you can't do it, NOOB. :stick:

But I really doubt it will have any effect on how bad we all beat you, and I don't plan to protest you for it. And if anybody does, we should pee in his car.

Ha! You guys are forgetting Kevin has a long history of cheating. :shock:

We should put in a preliminary protest on his car. I'm sure he has already changed at least five things that are illegal for STR.

Zach Hill · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:29 pm

Matt McGrain wrote:

Is this STR legal? Wow. :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-Hon ... 519c2e6300

DUDE, did you see the awesome seats!??!

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

MarcusMcRae wrote:

Kevin Allen wrote:

If the rule book doesn't say you can do it, you can't do it, NOOB. :stick:

But I really doubt it will have any effect on how bad we all beat you, and I don't plan to protest you for it. And if anybody does, we should pee in his car.

Ha! You guys are forgetting Kevin has a long history off cheating. :shock:

We should put in a preliminary protest on his car. I'm sure he has already changed at least five things that are illegal for STR.

My car is most likely going to be stock legal this year, in case I feel like running in stock class at some point. I want to make Les cry again next year, so I may need to put some R compounds on it if things start off slow on street tires.

Anybody know if modifying the gas pedal is stock legal?

MarcusMcRae · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:24 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

MarcusMcRae wrote:

Kevin Allen wrote:

If the rule book doesn't say you can do it, you can't do it, NOOB. :stick:

But I really doubt it will have any effect on how bad we all beat you, and I don't plan to protest you for it. And if anybody does, we should pee in his car.

Ha! You guys are forgetting Kevin has a long history off cheating. :shock:

We should put in a preliminary protest on his car. I'm sure he has already changed at least five things that are illegal for STR.

My car is most likely going to be stock legal this year, in case I feel like running in stock class at some point. I want to make Les cry again next year, so I may need to put some R compounds on it if things start off slow on street tires.

Anybody know if modifying the gas pedal is stock legal?

You won't need R comps to beat Lesley. I beat him a couple times this year with street tires.

Zach Hill · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:27 pm

JasonWatts wrote:

i don't think modifying the bumper bar is legal unless it is "installed as directed by the manufacturer".

That being said, I have no plan's to protest you. the 2 ounces you shaved in weight is not going to make any measurable difference in were you finish. However the added weight from someone peeing in your car might. :thumbsdown:

Well, this was brought up so I want to know. If I were to replace the AP1 bumper bar with an OEM, unmodified AP2 bar (which would presumably fit under the AP2 bumper cover), would that be legal under the update/backdate rules?

I agree it's pretty ridiculous to say the small bit of metal shaved off gives an unfair competitive advantage, but I just want to know for the sake of knowing.

And no car-peeing, please, under any circumstances. :thumbsdown:

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:01 pm

Zach Hill wrote:

JasonWatts wrote:

i don't think modifying the bumper bar is legal unless it is "installed as directed by the manufacturer".

That being said, I have no plan's to protest you. the 2 ounces you shaved in weight is not going to make any measurable difference in were you finish. However the added weight from someone peeing in your car might. :thumbsdown:

Well, this was brought up so I want to know. If I were to replace the AP1 bumper bar with an OEM, unmodified AP2 bar (which would presumably fit under the AP2 bumper cover), would that be legal under the update/backdate rules?

I agree it's pretty ridiculous to say the small bit of metal shaved off gives an unfair competitive advantage, but I just want to know for the sake of knowing.

And no car-peeing, please, under any circumstances. :thumbsdown:

Da SCCA Rules wrote:

F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:
1. It is a production part which is standard or optional equipment of a
US model of the vehilcle
2. It is listed in the vehicle manufacturer’s US accessory catalog for
that vehicle for normal highway use.
Parts must be installed as directed by the manufacturer. Exact replicas
(including weight) from alternate sources are also permitted.

Ninja edit:

Not legal to change to the AP2 support, rule states bumper cover only, can't change the support.

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