L'burg repair thread

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:27 pm

I've got a LOT of miles at Laurinburg and never broke anything. *shrug* I think most of the "suspension problems" seen at Laurinburg were more about amazing grip levels pulling eccentrics out and stuff, which can happen at any high grip site. I think the bumps, when worked around properly, aren't nearly the issue *some* make them out to be.

I'm not saying the club doesn't need more close sites...clearly it does. But I think Laurinburg has gotten a bad rap, too. It's way harder on PAINT than suspensions, but paint can be easily protected if you care.

--Donnie

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

If we put a days worth of work into improving laurinburg, it would be a lot better and give course designers a lot of flexibility.

As one who chaired the last event there though (And had to buy a weedeater and go AT it with said wead eater to clear a clean line), it needs that level of work to be useful. An extra spool of timing cable would have really helped as well, givcen how long the site is now.

That said, I LOVE the site, and would gladly volunteer to help out on such a day.

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:12 pm

BriceJohnson wrote:

If we put a days worth of work into improving laurinburg, it would be a lot better and give course designers a lot of flexibility.

As one who chaired the last event there though (And had to buy a weedeater and go AT it with said wead eater to clear a clean line), it needs that level of work to be useful. An extra spool of timing cable would have really helped as well, givcen how long the site is now.

That said, I LOVE the site, and would gladly volunteer to help out on such a day.

I agree with Brice. It would be interesting to have a crew of people go down on a Saturday before an event with blowers, weekwackers and maybe some quikcrete and work on the site, then set up the course. All of the workers get to double up in hotel rooms and get that and their event paid for the next day. Hell, I would do that to help the site/club, considering it's the closest site THSCC has for me. I have a new Echo 51cc backpack blower and 32cc Ryobi weedwacker that can really clear some area. - AB

JamesShort · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:18 pm

I have a weedwacker that I'd leave on the bus permanently

....upgraded to a 4 cycle. Still starts every time.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:03 pm

you slick whistles buy a PTO scrubber and I'll bring my tractor. but i still think L'Burg is a crater and debris filled mess.

Quik-Crete? i'm sorry but i spent a chunk of change on my suspension. given how delicate Koni's seem to be.............. :shock:

seriously, http://www.wikco.com/yb24.html :lol:

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:15 pm

steve remchak wrote:

you slick whistles buy a PTO scrubber and I'll bring my tractor. but i still think L'Burg is a crater and debris filled mess.

Quik-Crete? i'm sorry but i spent a chunk of change on my suspension. given how delicate Koni's seem to be.............. :shock:

seriously, http://www.wikco.com/yb24.html :lol:

We rented a real street sweeper for when we first used Sanford. I drove that thing for the better part of a day and I guarantee it will be cheaper and easier to do that again.

- AB

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:19 pm

steve remchak wrote:

you slick whistles buy a PTO scrubber and I'll bring my tractor. but i still think L'Burg is a crater and debris filled mess.

Quik-Crete? i'm sorry but i spent a chunk of change on my suspension. given how delicate Koni's seem to be.............. :shock:

seriously, http://www.wikco.com/yb24.html :lol:

You won't last an hour using that on a tractor. There is so much dust and debris that you will be covered in no time flat. Its quite the miserable job unless you have a broom tractor with a cab, and A/C

As for concrete repair

Check this stuff out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-gYm7o0sfE

Cures in an hour.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:34 pm

Ryan Holton wrote:

steve remchak wrote:

you slick whistles buy a PTO scrubber and I'll bring my tractor. but i still think L'Burg is a crater and debris filled mess.

Quik-Crete? i'm sorry but i spent a chunk of change on my suspension. given how delicate Koni's seem to be.............. :shock:

seriously, http://www.wikco.com/yb24.html :lol:

You won't last an hour using that on a tractor. There is so much dust and debris that you will be covered in no time flat. Its quite the miserable job unless you have a broom tractor with a cab, and A/C

As for concrete repair

Check this stuff out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-gYm7o0sfE

Cures in an hour.

you are spoiled Mr. Holton, besides Budweiser washes dust away at a relatively respectable rate.

RobLupella · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:54 pm

I'm not sure that L'burg is fixable with a broom and a weedwacker anymore. There is just too much broken concrete there, not just grass covered. It would probably take at a very minimum some replacement concrete, jack hammers and other expensive labor intensive materials. Especially in the area we use. The old area might have been fixable by Quickcrete or a small rental mixer, but that is gone.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:11 am

RobLupella wrote:

I'm not sure that L'burg is fixable with a broom and a weedwacker anymore. There is just too much broken concrete there, not just grass covered. It would probably take at a very minimum some replacement concrete, jack hammers and other expensive labor intensive materials. Especially in the area we use. The old area might have been fixable by Quickcrete or a small rental mixer, but that is gone.

You didn't look at my video

Chuck Branscomb · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:42 am

Ryan Holton wrote:

RobLupella wrote:

I'm not sure that L'burg is fixable with a broom and a weedwacker anymore. There is just too much broken concrete there, not just grass covered. It would probably take at a very minimum some replacement concrete, jack hammers and other expensive labor intensive materials. Especially in the area we use. The old area might have been fixable by Quickcrete or a small rental mixer, but that is gone.

You didn't look at my video

Ryan,

In all seriousness, if we really want to use Maxton, this Flexset looks like something we should consider. Heck, it was specifically developed to do quick repairs to military concrete runways. One 5 gallon bucket covers 50 ft^2 at 1/8" (0.4 ft^3), but we probably have many areas requiring greater depth. I have no idea how much of this stuff would be needed, but it does appear to be the best solution by far -- quick setting (6-8 minutes working time after mixed), can be mixed with a portable drill on site in the bucket it comes in, usable in 30min (but probably longer the deeper the repair), etc. It would need to be done in warm weather though -- ~75F it seems.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:30 am

Chuck Branscomb wrote:

Ryan Holton wrote:

RobLupella wrote:

I'm not sure that L'burg is fixable with a broom and a weedwacker anymore. There is just too much broken concrete there, not just grass covered. It would probably take at a very minimum some replacement concrete, jack hammers and other expensive labor intensive materials. Especially in the area we use. The old area might have been fixable by Quickcrete or a small rental mixer, but that is gone.

You didn't look at my video

Ryan,

In all seriousness, if we really want to use Maxton, this Flexset looks like something we should consider. Heck, it was specifically developed to do quick repairs to military concrete runways. One 5 gallon bucket covers 50 ft^2 at 1/8" (0.4 ft^3), but we probably have many areas requiring greater depth. I have no idea how much of this stuff would be needed, but it does appear to be the best solution by far -- quick setting (6-8 minutes working time after mixed), can be mixed with a portable drill on site in the bucket it comes in, usable in 30min (but probably longer the deeper the repair), etc. It would need to be done in warm weather though -- ~75F it seems.

Yeah, its a pretty neat product and the lack of jackhammers, saws and backhoes makes it PERFECT for our use. Its not cheap but it seems like we need to maximize the use of the site.

I'm gonna defer to Rodney/AXVp's as I really not trying to bypass those guys, this is their show. I am planning to be at the TnT and would be glad to do a quick survey of areas to repair and figure out a rough cost.

RobLupella · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:13 am

Ryan Holton wrote:

RobLupella wrote:

I'm not sure that L'burg is fixable with a broom and a weedwacker anymore. There is just too much broken concrete there, not just grass covered. It would probably take at a very minimum some replacement concrete, jack hammers and other expensive labor intensive materials. Especially in the area we use. The old area might have been fixable by Quickcrete or a small rental mixer, but that is gone.

You didn't look at my video

It still would require getting to a solid base, right. You can't just pour that stuff into a hole with broken chunks and dirt etc, so you still need labor and a way to pour it into a solid base.

Volunteers?

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:22 am

Ryan Holton wrote:

As for concrete repair

Check this stuff out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-gYm7o0sfE

Cures in an hour.

Great idea! I suspect if it can handle semis and such it could handle our situation just as well.

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:01 pm

Ryan Holton wrote:

I'm gonna defer to Rodney/AXVp's as I really not trying to bypass those guys, this is their show. I am planning to be at the TnT and would be glad to do a quick survey of areas to repair and figure out a rough cost.

By all means, the more input the better and for some one who's actually spent time out there in the past, your $.02 is valued for sure.

I'm the GM for the Test & Tune next month and if anyone wants to help with setup the day before (event chairs perhaps?) AND take a look at what the options are, avoiding the Golden Nights area needless to say.

Also, although the T-n-T thread hasn't been made yet, I do need a two volunteers for setup and inspection of the condition so PM me if interested.

I still have a little faith that 'ol L-burg isn't past the point of useability (for lack of a better word), especially given the relatively low cost.

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