Anyone going to VMP 1/23 for the Nasa autox?

JamesShort · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:56 pm

It is a big course and they do 5-6 runs. $35. Should be fun.

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:23 pm

Oh god completely different classing rules.

Quote:

1) Engine swap: All engine swaps must be evaluated for new base classification by
the NASA-X National Director on an individual basis, unless a base class for
the particular swap is listed above in 1.2 Base Classifications or in Appendix A.
Please refer to section 1.5.

Ugh.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:25 pm

Yep, you'd probably be your base class plus one.

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:36 pm

Believe it or not, if I run on street tires I can stay in my base class and I believe I only have 11 points total. And I could show up with my interior basically gutted.

205 tires -7
MS3 +3
Intake +1
Headers +2
Catback +2
Shocks +3
Springs +2
Sways +2
Bushings +3 (I think)
Points: 11

JamesShort · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:49 pm

Bushings are free I think.

I start at C* and because of turbo I get another 5 pts so I start with 12 points

. But my skinny tires bring me back to 7 and the fsb and dampers keep me in C.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:07 pm

JamesMilko wrote:

Oh god completely different classing rules.

Quote:

1) Engine swap: All engine swaps must be evaluated for new base classification by
the NASA-X National Director on an individual basis, unless a base class for
the particular swap is listed above in 1.2 Base Classifications or in Appendix A.
Please refer to section 1.5.

Ugh.

For you, I'd just do points like you did a head/cam swap.

Edit: nevermind headswap is the same and the vvt engine into an NA is not on the approved list. I don't quite understand their update backdate though.

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

Hmmm... maybe. The STi is back, just need to drive it 1000 miles tomorrow and change the oil.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:49 am

I emailed Jon and he said the course will easily be 60+ sec and 5-6 runs. And like zMax, VMP has rules with local HOAs about start time on Sunday, which is noon, so you don't have to get up too early to make the 1:45 drive to Petersburg. And with a cap of 60 drivers, we should be done at a reasonable time.

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

VMP is huge, and in pretty good shape, unless it's changed since the last time I was there. Only annoying thing besides the drive is the ripples in the pavement in some places. Stockish Subarus won't care, though.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:16 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

VMP is huge, and in pretty good shape, unless it's changed since the last time I was there. Only annoying thing besides the drive is the ripples in the pavement in some places. Stockish Subarus won't care, though.

Yes I did the EVO school there. Great lot. I didn't notice any ripples (though the course could have been designed around them and I didn't see it). Since it is a drag strip and they do oil changes in the lot, there are a few places where there were spills but the course designer avoided those spots (nothing that kitty litter couldn't dry up).

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:28 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

VMP is huge, and in pretty good shape, unless it's changed since the last time I was there. Only annoying thing besides the drive is the ripples in the pavement in some places. Stockish Subarus won't care, though.

Yeah, if you get a nice run on pavement directly across from the grandstands, it gets seriously bumpy. If it's slow, it's fine. I was there one time where I was pretty deep into the Celica's 3rd gear (around 70mph or so) and it got a little hairy.

That said, other than when it's brutally cold, the grip is pretty good there. - AB

JenniferBedell · **Posted:** Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:40 pm

Okay, because I'm stupid -- where would double-adjustable shocks generally fall on the Suspension/Brakes/Chassis page? I couldn't say whether the resevoir on mine is fixed or has a connecting hose without going out to the garage, and it's COLD out there! :shock:

JamesShort · **Posted:** Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:06 pm

JenniferBedell wrote:

Okay, because I'm stupid -- where would double-adjustable shocks generally fall on the Suspension/Brakes/Chassis page? I couldn't say whether the resevoir on mine is fixed or has a connecting hose without going out to the garage, and it's COLD out there! :shock:

What shocks are they? And will the extra 3 points by taking the first level bump you a class?

JenniferBedell · **Posted:** Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:16 pm

Nope, you're right, I mis-read and I've either got #1 or #2, so I'm still up a class (just barely). Thanks!

JamesShort · **Posted:** Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:23 pm

JenniferBedell wrote:

Nope, you're right, I mis-read and I've either got #1 or #2, so I'm still up a class (just barely). Thanks!

What size tires? And rcomp or street?

You start with a base class of C with an initial 14 points

+14
+7 or +10 for shocks
+2 for FSB
+ or _ (depending on how far from 255mm you are)
+ 0 for street tire or +10 for R6/v710/BFG R1 or +13 for A6

Unless you are really skinny street tires (ie with a large deduction) it seems you are pretty deep into the 20 point range, so you'd run as NXB.

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