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I have no fight in the SM points standings. I guess I should run DSP since DS and SM are well represented.

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"Never let life be shaped by fear of its end"

No, you're a towel!

My car is useless without r-comps. Not prepped enough to justify its CSP pax.

Not useless for STS though

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2012 MX-5 Sport SUV

Torsen bumps me out of STS, removed soft top/LT headers bumps me out of STR. I think my steering wheel also bumps me from ST since I removed an airbag to put it on.

This is how they scored the cup last year. How we gonna do it?

"The Club Cup format will be as follows :
We will take the club with the lowest NCAC entrants , take 80% of
their total entrants , and this will be the number we use to pull from
each of the remaining clubs.
We will then take that number and use the top Pax finishers for each
club and combine their Pax times for the Clubs total. Lowest combined
Pax time wins.
EX: Club "B" brings 10 members and is the lowest participating club,
we will use 80% or 8 members. We will then take the Top 8 Pax
Finishers from each club and combine their times for that clubs
NCAC score."

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Blue/White Suzuki
Red Triumph
Grey BMW

"Never let life be shaped by fear of its end"

No, you're a towel!

That seems to be pretty fair by balancing things out based on the number of members from each of the clubs, which I think is a good thing.

My vote would probably be to keep it the same as the scoring of the club cup can get be a sore topic. The only thing I would change maybe would be to say 10% or 10 people which ever is greater.

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Stephen Westerfield
2009 Infiniti M35 | 2007 Honda Fit Sport | 2005 Ford Mustang GT |2000 GMC Sierra |1992 Acura Integra LS | Super Westerfield Bros Acura Integra

I'll be there.....trying to catch up to Steve Carter in TIR.....I'll be coming with new rubber though....screw these grease ball RS2s.

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2013/2014.5 President
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2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

PAX SUX

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Did any club field less than 10?
My vote would probably be to keep it the same as the scoring of the club cup can get be a sore topic. The only thing I would change maybe would be to say 10% or 10 people which ever is greater.

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Not spectacular just decent.
I'm not sure what I'm driving.
Maybe an ITR in DS.
Or half-assed STX prepped 330.

Not a bad idea. Highlands had 6 show up in '06 in Greensboro. Yeah, I was bored.

What about something that involves actually winning classes? Restrict it to just classes that have all the clubs represented and perhaps a big r-comp allowed PAX class (like X/Pro/Ladies but with less of a focus on it being for the best drivers) for people who don't have anyone to run against. Most trophies/points/firsts/etc takes it.

The biggest issue that I see is that it messes up the X guys in their yearly points since it would be better for the club for them to run in open. Maybe something can be worked out so that their scores get put into a X ranking even if they ran open on Sunday.

However, I don't know any of the history behind NCAC so that may be a colossally bad idea.

I agree about pax, it basically makes the modified classes a determent to the club except for the handful of cars that are actually prepped properly. Even if your CSP/SSM car is faster than every other CSP/SSM car there, you're likely still going to have a crappy PAX score because the car isn't prepped to the limit of the rules.

I agree with this philosophy too. PAX is somewhat flawed because it's based on National level people and courses. I really don't care if I lose points for X class. All that is to me is a place to run to not screw up other's points, but I do value trying to win a B-Stock North Carolina Championship.

With so many classes, no one team will ever have competition in all classes. I think it should be your top 5 PAX times from each team added to the top 5 raw times for each team. Lowest total time wins. I would prefer to have some sort of class wins points system, but that proved difficult in the past. - AB

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Super Westerfield Bros - '93 Integra - LeChump Du Jour
STX 93 - Scion FR-S

The problem with class wins points is that people try and run any class their car is eligible in to get points for a win not actually run against other people. I liked the top 5 PAX and top 5 raw times combined idea as it is about as good as you can get personally. You can even open it up to top 10 in each if you want to.

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2010 Honda Fit Sport
Couple of bicycles

I wish there were a way to make it advantageous for all to attend. I think part of the problem in the past couple of years has been that those who enjoy running, but don't regularly trophy have felt that their presence wasn't needed, and therefore, not appreciated. That being said, I'm not smart enough to actually know HOW to do that. There's so much difference in the sizes of the different clubs. I also know that while deciding by a point system determined by how many 1sts, 2nds, 3rds, etc might be the best measure, that would be a beast to actually audit and separate. (I'd be happy to help figure that out if it was done that way.)

All I really want, whatever way is decided, is for our club to have a fantastic turnout.

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SCCA HSL National Champion 2012
SCCA DSL National Champion 2013
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NCR National Driver of the Year 2012
THSCC Heel of the Year 2011
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