NCAC?

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:52 am

I wasn't there.
I haven't autocrossed in over a year.
I read the comments on the other forum.
I watched a few videos

If I felt like being snarky, I would have posted the following on the other forum...

1. Walk the course
2. Look ahead
3. Don't overdrive your car

Based upon the videos, the Sunday course looked fun to me. I would have loved it.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:55 am

Richard Casto wrote:

I wasn't there.
I haven't autocrossed in over a year.
I read the comments on the other forum.
I watched a few videos

If I felt like being snarky, I would have posted the following on the other forum...

1. Walk the course
2. Look ahead
3. Don't overdrive your car

Based upon the videos, the Sunday course looked fun to me. I would have loved it.

4. Check your oil

JohnByers · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:06 am

You owe me a keyboard Ryan :wink:

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:20 am

thanks john :roll:

JohnByers wrote:

I'm thinking that was the supercharged Fiero. Thing was so loud it made me happy to hear Jeremy's car! :shock:

JohnByers · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:41 am

anytime.....anytime

Zach Hill · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:26 am

Gwen Baake wrote:

.....and if someone was upset about the "HUGE" sweeper, he probably would have been miserable at Nationals. Like Spratte said in another thread, the sweepers there were larger than our entire Greenville site. Hummmm...1200 drivers took all those huge, fast sweepers without draining their oil pans. Weird. :wink:

Nationals? But he's the Future STR National Champ!

Karl Shultz wrote:

Yeah. I don't know either. <Clarkson>How hard could it be?</Clarkson>

I LOL'd

MartynWheeler · **Joined:** Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:30 pm **Posts:** 303

THSCC courses are different. They always have been. They always have a good flow, even on the tighter sites. Higher speeds, sure, but in sensible places and with the right runoff. Many of the other clubs (sweeping generalization alert) tended to chop and bounce around, and I think that's still the case.

There doesn't need to be a disruptive "oh I finished that element and there's the next one" in an autocross course. I can see how people who run only the chop-and-bounce courses might not have (how do I put this nicely?) developed the practice of considering each element in the context of those before and after, in which case they might find THSCC courses challenging. There's a reason you don't blow off the course walk even if it's a couple of miles long.

My impression is that THSCC courses feel like they're designed for people who like driving and love feeling the car. They're not designed for people who compensate for lack of interest in vehicle dynamics by fitting stiff springs and sharp shock settings, so they can bounce the car around and it kind of works anyway. Nowhere was that more clear than working station 4 on Sunday, looking across to people running the last few elements on the taxiway. Lots of chop and bounce, sharp steering and especially pedal inputs upsetting the car and not letting the dynamics work.

I'm not putting down other clubs here. Triad, for example, runs good events and have every right to be very proud of their autocross program. I'm just saying I can see why some people from other clubs might find our courses... different. And some people hate "different" just because, whether it's good different or bad different.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:20 pm

I wasn't there either but I was at the two Triad events in Danville including the CrossTrial "high speed" event on Saturday. Did any of the Triad guys complain about the "high speed"? From the one video I watched it was a "typical" narrow runway/taxiway course with "repeat" elements on the same single lap rather than on two consecutive laps like the Danville CrossTrial. The Looong sweeper comment is strange. FYI the Triad CrossTrial was probably slower than Nationals this year from what I saw in Videos from Nats. Plenty fast for the Danville site but not "FAST".

FYI I "hate" slaloms . . . because I'm no good at them in my formula car. Therefore I like to see them since I clearly need the practice! Ditto for any other course element that is not a "favorite" or "preference". I always learn something . . . whether I remember it "next time" is a different issue. :wink:

ChrisSuich · **Posted:** Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:24 pm

What's the deal with club results for day 2 of NCAC?
Are they ever going to get posted?

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:12 pm

Working on it- have been dealing with some other issues lately. I apologize and will try to get them up as quick as I can.

edit: Done.

MarcusMcRae · **Posted:** Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:50 pm

I figured I would just bump last years thread so you guys don't have to re-hash all the same discussions about the club cup. Please just re-read this thread.

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:58 pm

trophies? anyone?

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

the funny part is rereading parts of it, it sounds exactly like it could be current, especially the part about James fixing his car that he broke at VIR :twisted:

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:59 pm

This year is totally different! I broke the car at Sanford due to a reassembly error after breaking the car at VIR!

I should be back together for this though, I'm hoping to make it this weekend in my own car.

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