Event #5 at Danville

MartynWheeler · **Joined:** Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:30 pm **Posts:** 303

When it comes down to it, pivot cones require exactly the same approach in a FWD low-power HS Mazda 3 as they are in a RWD break-the-back-loose FS Trans Am:

Visualize where you want the car to be at the exit (that's right beside the cone, pointing to the next gate). Keep that image, and that image alone, in your head as you hurtle towards the braking point and keep it there until you exit. Don't lose that image, even for an instant, and your instincts will do the rest.

Sounds daft, eh? Try it.

You already know how to nail the turn, stop distracting yourself by thinking too hard.

Maria Winslow · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:16 pm

MartynWheeler wrote:

When it comes down to it, pivot cones require exactly the same approach in a FWD low-power HS Mazda 3 as they are in a RWD break-the-back-loose FS Trans Am:

Visualize where you want the car to be at the exit (that's right beside the cone, pointing to the next gate). Keep that image, and that image alone, in your head as you hurtle towards the braking point and keep it there until you exit. Don't lose that image, even for an instant, and your instincts will do the rest.

Sounds daft, eh? Try it.

You already know how to nail the turn, stop distracting yourself by thinking too hard.

It's so nice to get specific advice like this. Thank you!

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:31 pm

MartynWheeler wrote:

When it comes down to it, pivot cones require exactly the same approach in a FWD low-power HS Mazda 3 as they are in a RWD break-the-back-loose FS Trans Am:

Visualize where you want the car to be at the exit (that's right beside the cone, pointing to the next gate). Keep that image, and that image alone, in your head as you hurtle towards the braking point and keep it there until you exit. Don't lose that image, even for an instant, and your instincts will do the rest.

Sounds daft, eh? Try it.

You already know how to nail the turn, stop distracting yourself by thinking too hard .

The overthinking part is of interest to me, because like golf, tennis and other individual sports there's a tension between the verbal "overthinking mind" and the nonverbal "just do it" mind. When not distracted, and allowing the nonverbal mind to act unimpeded by the (usually critical) verbal mind, a player can fall into what some call it the Groove, the Flow, the Zone, playing "out of His/her mind", etc...Sure, it's kind of squishy pop-psychology but if one talks to sports psychologists or reads up on it, they all say variations on the same theme.

As you say, pick the right mental image or cue, and stay focused on it so the verbal mind can shut up and let the nonverbal mind just drive... Now that I have a potential mental image I hope I'll improve that weak link!

Thanks!

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:35 pm

Steven Carter wrote:

MartynWheeler wrote:

When it comes down to it, pivot cones require exactly the same approach in a FWD low-power HS Mazda 3 as they are in a RWD break-the-back-loose FS Trans Am:

Visualize where you want the car to be at the exit (that's right beside the cone, pointing to the next gate). Keep that image, and that image alone, in your head as you hurtle towards the braking point and keep it there until you exit. Don't lose that image, even for an instant, and your instincts will do the rest.

Sounds daft, eh? Try it.

You already know how to nail the turn, stop distracting yourself by thinking too hard .

The overthinking part is of interest to me, because like golf, tennis and other individual sports there's a tension between the verbal "overthinking mind" and the nonverbal "just do it" mind. When not distracted, and allowing the nonverbal mind to act unimpeded by the (usually critical) verbal mind, a player can fall into what some call it the Groove, the Flow, the Zone, playing "out of His/her mind", etc...Sure, it's kind of squishy pop-psychology but if one talks to sports psychologists or reads up on it, they all say variations on the same theme.

As you say, pick the right mental image or cue, and stay focused on it so the verbal mind can shut up and let the nonverbal mind just drive... Now that I have a potential mental image I hope I'll improve that weak link!

Thanks!

So should Kevin and I chair the non points fun autox at the end of the year? 5 pivots this time???

JasonWatts · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:43 pm

JamesShort wrote:

5 pivots this time???

Why stop at 5 when you can go for 20?

JasonWatts · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:48 pm

JamesMilko wrote:

I'm also curious on how 5 speed Miata folks shifted at the start. Jonell mentioned hanging out in first until you are past the crossover then grabbing second. I did this on my last 2 runs and the times came out favorable. However, I'm too inconsistent everywhere else to be able to tell if one change impacted my overall time. It certainly felt faster but that could just be psychological with the engine near the limiter entering the taxiway. I'm running TIR-CSP, but I'm still fairly close to STR as far as prep goes.

I found my shift spot to be between the first and second optional slalom cones when going to the left. There felt to be a very small spot in there where the car settled down just long enough to shift.

However, please keep in mind that I have a 6spd and am slow... oh, and I do everything wrong atleast half the time if not more.

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

JamesShort wrote:

So should Kevin and I chair the non points fun autox at the end of the year? 5 pivots this time???

Actually, I was going to volunteer to chair that, just haven't gone and done it. Same crew? Me, you, Liz?

I have a plan that would make everybody happy, including the Moosewang drivers.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:00 pm

Kevin Allen wrote:

JamesShort wrote:

So should Kevin and I chair the non points fun autox at the end of the year? 5 pivots this time???

Actually, I was going to volunteer to chair that, just haven't gone and done it. Same crew? Me, you, Liz?

I have a plan that would make everybody happy, including the Moosewang drivers.

Sounds good

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KouroshNeshat · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:23 am

20 pivots?

ill make sure to put some McD's trays under my rear wheels.

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:59 am

KouroshNeshat wrote:

20 pivots?

ill make sure to put some McD's trays under my rear wheels.

Or you can just do this to the Integra this weekend in preparation. I've seen this car at VIR during the ITR Expo and it's pretty wild.

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JohnByers · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:04 pm

That car is from the town I used to teach HS, I remember when he was just laying everything out I would stop by after work and see where he had gotten to that day on the car. He is quite the fabricator.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:42 pm

finaly...a Type R that won't roast front tires. Let's see Mr Feinberg in that!

KouroshNeshat · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:10 pm

i was pit crew for him one year at VIR. is his name blake fuller?

the world challange races were there. but he was racing his hatchback, not the R.

he's been in a few drift events i think.

last i remembered he was using the drivetrain from a CRV? and just plugging the front axle locations.

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:23 pm

I can't remember, but he was a white dude, mid 40's but that probably doesn't narrow it down much. I think he was from western Carolina somewhere IIRC.

I think it was a H22 bolted to a CRV tranny though...

JamesShort · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:34 pm

That engine looks like a H22 to me, not a B20.

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