⚠ Forum Archived — The THSCC forums were discontinued (last post: 2024-05-18). This read-only archive preserves club history. Visit thscc.com →  |  Search this archive with Google: site:forums.thscc.com your search terms

THSCC Forums

Tarheel Sports Car Club Forums
It is currently Tue Apr 07, 2026 10:10 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 55 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:41 pm
Posts: 3172
Location: Seattle, WA
Rob,

The car that launched when the Starlet spun out *WAS* flagged by station 2 ...he/she just didn't stop and no other stations attempted to flag the car after our station but luckily the Starlet was very fast at turning around and getting going in the right direction.

_________________
2011/2012 Autox VP
2013/2014.5 President
2013 Top Gun

2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:58 pm 
Offline
Republican
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:25 pm
Posts: 4356
Location: MWI/MUI Kubota FTW
JamesShort wrote:
Rob,

The car that launched when the Starlet spun out *WAS* flagged by station 2 ...he/she just didn't stop and no other stations attempted to flag the car after our station but luckily the Starlet was very fast at turning around and getting going in the right direction.



i do one AutoX a year maybe. so take this with a grain of salt. IMO, course workers are getting less competent as time goes on.

i saw people turning there backs to cars on course, strolling out to get cones in front of cars, and strolling off course in front of cars.

i can say during the heat i worked the radio calls were clear but for maybe one or two. but low coneage was more responsible for that i believe than the actual ability to talk on the radio. the event i did last year had some of the most unintelligible radio traffic i think i have ever heard. plus everyone was trying to talk over everyone else.

i also think it is a good idea to call out "Red Flag, Red Flag" over the radio as not everyone might be up to speed as James noted. but that would be more of a Club directive rather than just my opinion.

i know it sounds stupid but maybe radio usage lessons for the Novices, or maybe mention it during the driver's meetings. of course if Ya'll are mentioning it during the driver's meetings i guess you know how much i listen anymore. :lol:

i miss the days of "when in doubt, whip it out". of course i also miss "The OOOOMPAH-LOOOMPAH Song" too. :twisted:

_________________
BenchWarmer Motorsports

another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump :)

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:06 pm
Posts: 338
Location: Durham, NC
I agree that a lot of people don't know how to make cone calls properly on the radio, or use the radio at all.

let me say this though, it's much worse at the recent Triad events i've been to.

What about making people bring the radios back to the table so we can ensure that novices don't end up holding the radio? Not sure if that is reasonable or not, but it's a suggestion!

I also think that the fact that some heats were ~2 hours and it was ~100F outside probably got people very tired and less on the ball. I had to struggle to stay alert at the end as I was totally exhausted.

_________________

Club Webmaster
-2014 Mazda 6 SkyActiv DD
-2002 Honda S2000 totaled by deer :(


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:52 pm 
Offline
I err on the side of being stupid
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:15 pm
Posts: 4743
Location: Greenville, NC
Steven Carter wrote:
Asphalt engineering question....

Any ideas on what makes the asphalt at Greenville have a less grippy feel than other asphalt runway sites? Is it materials, construction, thin film of oil from auctioned cars, or just my imagination? I swear my tires never squealed like that before that event. And seeing the Pollard's Starlet light up the inside rear RS3 (while entertaining) was pretty unusual as well.


The original asphalt is made with local materials which are granite. That's about as good as it gets. The problem lies that they have sealcoated it to keep the leaky used cars from eating the asphalt up. Sealcoating = SLICK!

_________________
02 Focus SVT
STF 9


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:01 pm 
Offline
Tadpole Lover

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm
Posts: 3479
steve remchak wrote:
JamesShort wrote:
Rob,

The car that launched when the Starlet spun out *WAS* flagged by station 2 ...he/she just didn't stop and no other stations attempted to flag the car after our station but luckily the Starlet was very fast at turning around and getting going in the right direction.



i do one AutoX a year maybe. so take this with a grain of salt. IMO, course workers are getting less competent as time goes on.

i saw people turning there backs to cars on course, strolling out to get cones in front of cars, and strolling off course in front of cars.

i can say during the heat i worked the radio calls were clear but for maybe one or two. but low coneage was more responsible for that i believe than the actual ability to talk on the radio. the event i did last year had some of the most unintelligible radio traffic i think i have ever heard. plus everyone was trying to talk over everyone else.

i also think it is a good idea to call out "Red Flag, Red Flag" over the radio as not everyone might be up to speed as James noted. but that would be more of a Club directive rather than just my opinion.

i know it sounds stupid but maybe radio usage lessons for the Novices, or maybe mention it during the driver's meetings. of course if Ya'll are mentioning it during the driver's meetings i guess you know how much i listen anymore. :lol:

i miss the days of "when in doubt, whip it out". of course i also miss "The OOOOMPAH-LOOOMPAH Song" too. :twisted:



This is why I always encourage the instructors/ extras to go out and work the course with the students to teach them how to work the course, when I chair autox schools.

You can't fix stupid, though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:25 pm
Posts: 1458
Location: Durham, NC
I've noticed that course workers get "dumber" as the temps get higher. People get fried out there standing in the sun. Especially at Greenville where you can't retreat into the grass. However, making the novices run with class helps out a lot, avoids those times where the novice run group is out there working the course.

I had a great time this weekend. I was totally fried by my 3rd run from the heat and I know Laura was struggling with the temps too. We might be out when the heat index is predicted to be significantly above 100.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:16 pm 
Offline
Republican
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:25 pm
Posts: 4356
Location: MWI/MUI Kubota FTW
personally, i hate rain. i'm thinking that might fry my mindset way worse than heat. but that is just me.

_________________
BenchWarmer Motorsports

another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump :)

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:15 am
Posts: 195
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Believe me, the novices who show up to the novice meetings are told lots of things. And I know it's easy to forget things, especially when it's so hot. Also especially when you are driving an expensive muscle car and you're too cool to listen :)

Maybe I'll take some initiative and make a handout. That could make the novice meeting go a little faster, too.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:08 am 
Offline
Honda >> Ford
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am
Posts: 2052
Ryan Holton wrote:
Steven Carter wrote:
Asphalt engineering question....

Any ideas on what makes the asphalt at Greenville have a less grippy feel than other asphalt runway sites? Is it materials, construction, thin film of oil from auctioned cars, or just my imagination? I swear my tires never squealed like that before that event. And seeing the Pollard's Starlet light up the inside rear RS3 (while entertaining) was pretty unusual as well.


The original asphalt is made with local materials which are granite. That's about as good as it gets. The problem lies that they have sealcoated it to keep the leaky used cars from eating the asphalt up. Sealcoating = SLICK!


It looked to me that the sealant hasn't been reapplied in some time, and is getting a bit gritty as it decays. In the past, the pavement got grippier as rubber was laid down during the day - in particular - the far sweeper would go from impossible greasy to actually pretty decent in the afternoon heats. Since I made all of my runs early in heat 1, I don't know if this happened yesterday.

On the good side, my Hoosiers are back to being (cheater) slicks for the first since I pulled them off my tire trailer the morning of the Laurinburg autocross. This is the only site we run that doesn't chew up tires.

_________________
Art McDonald
Premier Amateur #518
2008 Dishman Cup
Pivot Cone Snob

Rodney is a waxer (but in a good way)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:11 am 
Offline
Token nudist
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:42 am
Posts: 2623
Location: Lost in Eastern N. Carolina
JamesShort wrote:
Rob,

The car that launched when the Starlet spun out *WAS* flagged by station 2 ...he/she just didn't stop and no other stations attempted to flag the car after our station but luckily the Starlet was very fast at turning around and getting going in the right direction.


Must have been someone else then, because everyone was yelling RED FLAG, but no one could hear :shock: It was hot so I'm not bitching, I was just using this as illustrative. I was going to walk up there, but it was hot and near the end so I punted.....

I'm not sure I want to make the assumption that it was a novice. A lot of people who should know better fall asleep, but I agree with Maria that we can emphasize it more at the Novice meeting. I'm not sure the paper would be of benefit since it would be more trees killed and my guess is not too many would really use it.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 55 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group