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Are you talking about the offset slalom?


Exactly. I thought it might be quicker to give it up early and have more speed coming out in to the fast area after it that goes from the left side of the runway to the right through a few gates.

I was wrong b/c it's not nearly as tight exiting it from the right of the last cone as I thought it would be.


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MarcusMcRae wrote:

Are you talking about the offset slalom?


Exactly. I thought it might be quicker to give it up early and have more speed coming out in to the fast area after it that goes from the left side of the runway to the right through a few gates.

I was wrong b/c it's not nearly as tight exiting it from the right of the last cone as I thought it would be.


Yeah, I don't think there is anyway that could have been quicker to enter to the right. To go to the right would have made that whole slalom extremely painful. The exit going to the left really wasn't bad.

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Stephen Westerfield wrote:
Matt McGrain wrote:
MarcusMcRae wrote:

Are you talking about the offset slalom?


Exactly. I thought it might be quicker to give it up early and have more speed coming out in to the fast area after it that goes from the left side of the runway to the right through a few gates.

I was wrong b/c it's not nearly as tight exiting it from the right of the last cone as I thought it would be.


Yeah, I don't think there is anyway that could have been quicker to enter to the right. To go to the right would have made that whole slalom extremely painful. The exit going to the left really wasn't bad.


All you horsepower guys can accelerate at the end of the slalom if you entered the left and exit the right.
For me in the MINI, it was a small tap of the brake to enter on the right of the optional slalom; maintain some momentum and exit the slalom early.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1PGqAPo_Jk

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We actually were talking about the one right after the box. But in retrospect, it shouldn't have been mentioned as an alternative because it would have added some time b/c the slalom was so offset.

Very cool video Chris!


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Matt McGrain wrote:
We actually were talking about the one right after the box. But in retrospect, it shouldn't have been mentioned as an alternative because it would have added some time b/c the slalom was so offset.

Very cool video Chris!
Yeah, I thought you guys were talking about the decreasing offset slalom (right after cbox)

The second optional one seemed pretty obvious, enter slow exit fast as you head towards the lane changes.

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I had an awesome time at this event, guys. Even with the rain. Wonderful course setup - congrats to who contributed to its design.

Are there any photos taken of the cars on course?

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I had an awesome time at this event, guys. Even with the rain. Wonderful course setup - congrats to who contributed to its design.

Are there any photos taken of the cars on course?


Jessie was sick and the camera stayed at home with her this weekend.

I did see a few other camera's, but I dont know if they were out on course or where/what the pictures are.


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What was even better was that Jason almost spun out not once, but twice in the SAM E RUN. Would have been epic :lol: :twisted:

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What was even better was that Jason almost spun out not once, but twice in the SAM E RUN. Would have been epic :lol: :twisted:


those were fun funs. They don't count.


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Arthur McDonald wrote:
Les and I vote for reinstating the covers over the timing heads and reflectors. The false trips seemed more frequent while the sun was shining in heat 2.


It wasn't light related. We had the same problem in Heat 3 when we still had alot of cloud cover. It actually got better as the sun came back out.

EDIT - I forgot about Stephen cleaning the water off of the laser head. That did help but did not completely eliminate the problem.

As for the event, Wes, David and Karl have alot to be proud of. Both courses were an absolute blast and I would love to have a couple more cracks at Sunday's course. That course made me giggle!!

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Yeah, I'd like another shot at Sunday's course myself. I'd especially like to have a go on non-corded tires. :lol:

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The second optional one seemed pretty obvious, enter slow exit fast as you head towards the lane changes.

I certainly agree it was pretty obvious, but came to the opposite conclusion. Probably a difference with car dynamics, as I'm sure the Minis (for example) were correct to take it your way.

Entering fast let me stay on the gas for a long time before having to brake for the slalom, extending the momentum built up in the previous section where the Mazda 3 could put the extra (for HS) power down.

In contrast, to shove the heavy (for HS) car over to make that slow entry would have resulted much earlier braking and a speed reduction to below slalom speed. It would have cost time through the slalom rather than merely at the exit.

Immediately following the slalom was a set of sharp changes that prevented me carrying much speed through them, so gains from the fast slalom exit would have been wasted. Once through that second slalom putting down power was almost impossible for the rest of the course, with tons of wheelspin and resulting terminal understeer.

That slalom marked the split between the "I has HP!" Mazda 3-favoring section and the "I has no power but I can put what I have down in agile turns!" Mini-favoring section. For me, carrying already accumulated speed into the slalom seemed like a faster option overall than accelerating very briefly into a section where I'd be just throwing away the gains right away.

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Which slalom are we talking about? The first one on the "return trip" with the cones offset left-to-right by a lot? After that one, there were some offset gates that started over on the left hand side of the runway, but I'm not sure I'd call that a "lane change" element. Are we talking about one of the other slaloms?

You'd think I could figure this out, since I, you know, helped design that course. :lol:

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I think it was the four cone slalom after the offset gates, before the lane change. I DNF'ed a 61.9 trying to go the easy way, then scrubbed off way too much speed trying to go the hard way the other three attempts. Would've liked another shot if we had fun runs, that's for sure.

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FWIW, the exit to that slalom WAS faster than the entry in terms of how open it was. the offset was equal, and it was 3-4 paces longer to the first cone on exit, which is why I took it slow in, fast out (and why I took it fast in, slow out the previous day when it was run in the opposite direction). I don't know if your hoosiers are just cooked or what Martyn, but I most definitely COULD put down a good bit of power on exit, the only question in my mind is whether I should have done it the other way due to how many times I was hitting the rev limiter.

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