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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:46 pm 
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I need advice on window tinting. That easy bake oven known as a mustang has to be controlled by at least tinting the rear window. I had use formula one in the past, but they are way expensive. I’m not opposed to trying it myself if I could buy a kit. I’d appreciate any advice you have for what style tint you bought, durability, any ghosting or shadowing and the company you used.

If I add a rear window external louver, does that throw me out of stock class?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:18 pm 
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Rodney,

If I have the tint redone on the S2000, this is where I'll be taking it:

TVP (Total Vehicle Preparation)
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I've seen the guy's work, and it's sensational.

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I've used both FormulaOne and TVP. Both of them had a few small bubbles after a year of the tint being on the car. Rodney you can check out the 4Runner sometime if you like. TVP did the tint on it about 3yrs ago.

I'll likely take the mustang to TVP when I have it tinted.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:30 pm 
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Rodney, do you put a sunscreen in the windshield when you leave the car parked outside? That really helps keep the heat down in my car, which has a black interior.

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
I've used both FormulaOne and TVP. Both of them had a few small bubbles after a year of the tint being on the car. Rodney you can check out the 4Runner sometime if you like. TVP did the tint on it about 3yrs ago.


This is what's happening on the S2000 - small bubbles have started to show up on the back window. Formula One did the work. It's got a lifetime warranty on it, but I'm not completely sure I can find the receipt. Maybe it's still in their computer somewhere.

Window tint is something I want to learn how to do. Anyone in the club do it?

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I have a little experience in this area having done some myself and seen it done MANY times by a friend who ran her own shop.

1. 20% is NOT legal Matt, and I can't believe a professional shop these days would even do it. I have plenty of experience first hand with 'the man' on this when I had my '86 Camaro...with 8% tint all around! 35% is the darkest that is legal in NC and lots of inspection places do use a light meter (on the side windows at least) to check. Technically the law only applies to the driver and passenger front seat windows, so the back doors and rear glass can be limo black...which can make the others appear darker, but be warned this can result in more harrasment by the man.

2. If for some reason you decide you want to learn to do it yourself then climb into the back seat of a mid 90s Accord and attempt the back window. I'll warn you though, imagine trying to put a paper towel inside a cereal bowl...with NO wrinkles. If you can do that with no problem you are all set. FYI, glass that is curved in two directions is tinted by heating the film to the point of distortion while using a squeegee to lay it down...it ain't easy. Flat windows are easy (anyone can do those) so don't gauge your success if you've done a coffee table or truck back window.

3. I can't tell you how many times someone came into the shop and asked how much the job was to do car 'X'. Back then (mid 90s) it was about $200 for a four door. They then asked how much the tint was, which was less than $50. Of course they decided to do it themselves and always came back two days later when they discovered it was a lot harder than they thought. Bottom line...it's worth it to get a professional.

Karl, I'm sure you can learn to do it, but if patience isn't your number one trait...forget it.

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The bubbles will disappear after a while. It depends on which way your car faces during the day when it's parked at work. The more sun the quicker the bubbles disappear. They should be gone after a year though.

Loon into dye free films like Huper Optiks nano-ceramic series. These won't fade over time and they give great blocking with very good visibility.

http://www.huperoptik.com/Automotive.html

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Arthur McDonald wrote:
Rodney, do you put a sunscreen in the windshield when you leave the car parked outside? That really helps keep the heat down in my car, which has a black interior.


I always aim the car into the sun at work and used a screen on the bmw. Haven't bought one for the mustang yet. What do you recommed? I'd like to have one that's more custom fit rather than a generic one.

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Chris Landi wrote:
The bubbles will disappear after a while. It depends on which way your car faces during the day when it's parked at work. The more sun the quicker the bubbles disappear. They should be gone after a year though.

Loon into dye free films like Huper Optiks nano-ceramic series. These won't fade over time and they give great blocking with very good visibility.

http://www.huperoptik.com/Automotive.html


No, these bubbles appeared AFTER a year, or so. In both applications I requested their premium tint.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:17 am 
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Chris Landi wrote:
The bubbles will disappear after a while. It depends on which way your car faces during the day when it's parked at work. The more sun the quicker the bubbles disappear. They should be gone after a year though.


It sounds like Chris is referring to bubbles that may be trapped during installation, like with vinyl decals applied with water. If so, yes, those will disapear over time, but I think Jason is talking abiut ones that actually appear months/years later.

In the previous post I mentioned how they heat the film to the point of distortion to make it conform to a compound curve. Over time that can cause a problem. My car was professionally done in 1998 and came with a 7 year warranty. About a year ago the film on the rear window (the one with that infamous compound curve) started to bubble. None of the other windows were affected because they are flat or only curved in one direction. It's going to happen, and you just have to deal with it. The problem is most rear windows have a defroster making removal of the old film difficult. It can be done of course, but not quickly using a single-edged razor blade like the other windows.

Some of you may remember (say before 1990) the installers used to approach the compound-curved rear windows in a different manner. They would apply the film in 4"-6" wide strips, slightly overlapping each other, until the window was covered. The look was less than desirable, but at the time there were no other options. A little later, some of the high end shops would take the extra time to align those seams with the defroster lines and no one was the wiser. It looked better, but took a lot of extra effort to get it right. The upside was when they used a professional quality tint it rarely presented a problem with bubbles like mentioned above.

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Also, it would be worth giving David Russ at call with Tinted Atmospheres. He's a former Formula One guru and has a good reputation on nceuro.org.

http://nceuro.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... light=tint


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Maybe I'm an idiot, but I've never been into tint on any cars. Does it really help with interior heat that much?

I always thought it was to look cool 8) - AB

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:28 pm 
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Aaron Buckley wrote:
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I've never been into tint on any cars. Does it really help with interior heat that much?

I always thought it was to look cool 8) - AB


It actaully does help with heat (they tint windows on building too) but of course on my car it was 100% for looks.

FYI, you are likely to never see a car on a TV commercial or print add without tinted (really dark) windows. It does look cool. :D

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Arthur McDonald wrote:
Rodney, do you put a sunscreen in the windshield when you leave the car parked outside? That really helps keep the heat down in my car, which has a black interior.


I always aim the car into the sun at work and used a screen on the bmw. Haven't bought one for the mustang yet. What do you recommed? I'd like to have one that's more custom fit rather than a generic one.


Rodney, I picked up one made by heatshield and it fits perfectly. I think it was 30-40$.


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