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Which way do you prefer to interact with THSCC?
Forum only 60%  60%  [ 18 ]
Both Facebook and Forum 33%  33%  [ 10 ]
Mostly Facebook 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 30
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 Post subject: Re: Forum v. Facebook?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:03 am 
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Vincent Keene wrote:
I thought the point was for Zuckerberg to make a sh*t ton of money, which he certainly has. Was I wrong about that?
Indeed. The thing people (who should know better) gloss over is where the money comes from, i.e. what is the "product" that is Facebook. Ads? Nonsense. Internet ads have been junk forever. Nope. The value in Facebook is the information they can sell. And idiots just shovel that information in their doors.

Forums are perfectly suited for "long form content" -- anything more complicated than a "tweet" (aka text message), and conversations that last more than 5min. (ever tried to keep up a conversation on a FB post? pain in the ass.) Almost everything on FB is read-once-and-forget, which is spot-on for the people that live minute by minute on FB; nothing is shiny enough to hold a 3yo's attention for more than a few minutes.


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 Post subject: Re: Forum v. Facebook?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:35 pm 
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But those are indeed the times we live in and must overcome I suppose. Our friends from the western Piedmont area who run Greensboro, Winston Salem, nad Danville primarily have an even more dead forum than us - with whole threads with no new posts since 2014-2015, and they basically just post season points there but even that's not getting much traffic across that forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Forum v. Facebook?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:23 pm 
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Roger McDaniels wrote:
I've run a couple of forums, at least one of which is still limping along on life support, and I think that forums are dying or dead. There will be a few geezers (myself included) that will continue to use them, and as long as the cost and administrative burden are not excessive, then leave it running, but technology and the way that most people use it has moved on, and it's not moving back. Without the users/content, the forums usefulness is diminished, but I still like it for internal discussions within small communities like ours.


I thought that was going to happen two years ago, but now I'm not sure at all. There are plenty of forums that are still thriving, and certainly won't be replaced by Facebook.

The change is that *small* forums and those mostly driven by *conversation* rather than technical content are dying in favor of Facebook, yes. But every big off-road forum is still going gangbusters, and it's because they have huge tech communities and Facebook is *shit* for tech-talk. It's also shit for tech-support, and you're seeing plenty of thriving forums around higher end tech things and their user communities.

Forums are not dead in general, though Facebook is certainly killing certain types (like this one).

If you just want to converse, forums are overkill. If you want a persistent build-thread with technical help from a community, there's nothing better.


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 Post subject: Re: Forum v. Facebook?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 pm 
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I'm not on Facebook. I'm not going to get in Facebook. I'm a grumpy old man and I don't like millennials.

Stay off my lawn!


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 Post subject: Re: Forum v. Facebook?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:15 pm 
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Hah! I enjoyed working with you in T&S during Sunday's autocross. Bring us more incorrectly numbered 3-driver cars. We love 'em! (Not sure the audit team loved them, but that's their problem.)


Turner Oppy wrote:
I'm not on Facebook. I'm not going to get in Facebook. I'm a grumpy old man and I don't like millennials.

Stay off my lawn!

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 Post subject: Re: Forum v. Facebook?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:59 pm 
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Facebook once again saying f-u to users and "privacy settings". At least the EU and Germany in particular isn't going to put up with this stonewalling and corporate lying it would appear.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/03/technology/facebook-device-partners-users-friends-data.html

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