Forum v. Facebook?

Duane Black · **Joined:** Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:58 am **Posts:** 33

Which Lemon car are you on? I volunteer as pit marshal for ChAmpCar

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

Vincent Keene wrote:

Jordan Normark wrote:

I voted forum only because I do not have a Facebook account nor do I want one. I know I am in a small and shrinking minority, but it would be a shame if this forum went away.

I'm right there with you Jordan. Besides, my wife spends enough time on Facebook for 3 or 4 people, so she's using my portion of social media and then some.

Well that explains it. After the fascinating reports of the benefits of Facebook during the run-up to the NCAC that THSCC hosted at Z-Max a couple of years ago, I tried to open a Facebook account and was rejected. They said someone was already using my allotment.

I'd like to keep the private forum. I think the swap&sell should be private too.

Duane Black · **Joined:** Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:58 am **Posts:** 33

It sounds like the Russian bots control Arts account...

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

Roger McDaniels · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:49 pm

I've run a couple of forums, at least one of which is still limping along on life support, and I think that forums are dying or dead. There will be a few geezers (myself included) that will continue to use them, and as long as the cost and administrative burden are not excessive, then leave it running, but technology and the way that most people use it has moved on, and it's not moving back. Without the users/content, the forums usefulness is diminished, but I still like it for internal discussions within small communities like ours.

Chuck Branscomb · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:07 pm

As Sandberg, Facebook COO, said this morning, allowing users to opt-out of their data being harvested and sold would have to be a "premium product" that the user would have to pay for. Duh. The whole entire reason for FB to exist is to harvest people's personal data, build portfolios about them that they don't even realize, and sell access to it to advertisers, political campaigns, etc, etc. The popularity of using a platform that was specifically designed to exploit human psychological weaknesses (not my words but Sean Parker's words) for the company's monetary gain seems to have peaked imo. This whole space, social media space, likely will not even resemble today's world in a short amount of time.

Andrew Jonell · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:43 pm **Posts:** 1350

There's been a fairly steady backlash against the big/open internet ecosystems over the last few years (mostly Twitter) and communities have been going back to the walled garden approach. Either it's a free account Slack (still has the "you're the product" issue), a closed/invite-only FB group, or people rolling their own forums.

It'll be interesting to see how this Facebook stuff shakes out, especially with GPDR being implemented soon.

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:42 pm

Having been working recently on implementing GDPR in our software for my day job and working with EU data protection regulations for many years... I envy the rights EU citizens have in this area. We in the US don’t understand how bad we have it.

Richard

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:14 am

The EU will drag us along. We don't serve any EU clients, but GDPR compliance is in the contracts for most of our multinationals. We're a US/CA only telco.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:16 am

Many racing organizations have forums that appear to be active and viable. NASA, ChumpCar, LeMons to name a few. I believe THSCC is solely responsible for its own "ghost town" image here on the forum. It's pay to play unlike most if not all of the other race oriented forums. Most of the older members just don't participate in autocross anymore or rarely do locally as Buckley stated earlier and I would be curious to hear the numbers on autocross attendees that are actually members.

Lest anyone think (Mr. Casto) I am just on my usual "AutoXSUX" soapbox, I think we would see that very few in the HPDE program and even less in the RallyX program are actually dues paying members.

If you want more traffic here there will need to be a public option.

And, AutoX still SUX..... :lol:

Chuck Branscomb · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:29 am

Hilarious that Woz deleted his FB presence today and made a statement about it.

It continues to amaze me how supposedly brilliant people are only now realizing the whole point of Facebook? Perhaps as Sean Parker pointed out how the entire platform was designed to be addictive and exploit "vulnerabilities in human psychology" has sucked so many so deep in it's grasp, that it takes some eureka moment to be snapped out of the fog?

I'm not jumping on Woz with that comment specifically. What he is trying to do with Woz-U is fantastic imo. The entire "accredited degree required" college loan fed disaster commonly referred to as modern universities is on the cusp of a shake up that will break its core.

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:03 am

Chuck Branscomb wrote:

It continues to amaze me how supposedly brilliant people are only now realizing the whole point of Facebook?

I thought the point was for Zuckerberg to make a sh*t ton of money, which he certainly has. Was I wrong about that?

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:44 pm

Steve, outside of the AutoX sucks part... I pretty much agree with everything you said!

Time will tell, but I also wonder if we are about to see a major shift in how online social networks function. I am likely to keep my Facebook account open, but I am also likely to remove some info proactively and if they provide “opt out” options, I will exercise them. Lastly... the final step is to pretty much stop using Facebook.

Richard

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:50 pm

Calling the NASA forums alive is pretty generous. The VAST majority of conversation for NASA happens in class specific Facebook groups.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:06 am

JamesMilko wrote:

Calling the NASA forums alive is pretty generous. The VAST majority of conversation for NASA happens in class specific Facebook groups.

It's been awhile since I was over there, just remember about 20 sub-forums.

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