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Competition breeds many things, contempt, angst, brotherhood (sisterhood). but most of all competition breeds competitive nature and competitive nature breeds more folks that return to participate in our events.

think back to your first season in autoX and answer me this........... did you compete against the same ten / twelve or so people all season? did you learn these peoples names and steel yourself to finish higher in the standings than they did? did you develop a comraderie that still exists to some extent seven odd years later? did you finish DFL in a class of some damn good AutoX'ers? well i did.

look at how many of the Class of 2005 still participate in the Club. and look at their positions within the Club. was it a freak occurence of timing? a mere coincidence that these people all came out that crappy day in March to L'burg? of course it was.

but we is still here yohe...........

new members need something they can identify with. i disagree with the standard line of thinking that has formed Club policy for so many years. win and you are in. in to what? so now i have to try to make friends with a bunch of high strung, high waist pants wearing dudes in odd cars that really don't act like they really want me to be here. (unless of course i volunteer to work something or another). we all think we are the friendliest bunch around ...... but........ are we?

i could go on, but i think this is best left to the Newbs. you know, those quirky little smart-alecks that know how to use PhotoShop. because after all they are the future of this Club. you sorry Jack-asses

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BenchWarmer Motorsports

another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............

My first autox event ever was the last points event of 2009 with THSCC. I have never seen any of this rubbish you talk about all the time with the autox program and I've made plenty of friends regardless of their placings in events, many of which are as newbish as me (some equally newbish in autox experience, but much older or sometimes, even younger than me) and quite a few who are from 'your gen' (is this a good thing? ).

So it's obviously coming down to perspective, and yours is obviously warped (or what *you* want it to be).

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2011/2012 Autox VP
2013/2014.5 President
2013 Top Gun

2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

all I have to say is there is a huge difference between AXers and RXers.

that is all

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'11 RallyX VP
1998 Integra Type R - track fun
1999 Subaru 2.5RS - dirt fun

Well that opened up Pandora's box? How so? I figure either way is just folks wanting to drive, have fun and help where possible. At least that was my experience when I first started back in 2000.

Careful on your reply. I have an itchy trigger finger to shut this one down fast if it get's into a pissing contest.

I also don't agree w/ Steve's comments or even the need to start this thread. I don't mind folks pointing out issues, but at least offer a solution to your gripe. No club is perfect, including us.

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Rodney

'08 Bullitt mustang, CAM 7
Autox VP '09-'10, President '11-'12, interim President 2nd half of ‘14
proud recipient of the Bowie Grey service award '12
Now just a guy driving a mustang....

WOW

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2004 mazdaspeed miata bsp #77
shifter kart also(someone buy this $1500)

I have to wonder how much of this bashing and bickering has affected attendance?

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In need of car.

quoted for truth. I don't get the "win and you're in" observation....are you saying people aren't friendly to people who don't win? {shrug} I don't see it.

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Steve Carter
1972 Datsun 240Z-- resto pics at http://picasaweb.google.com/srcartermd
2007 GPW Honda S2000-- STR 86

to be honest, it was really to see what people post. I dont have a problem with either side of the club.
but i did run into some old school autoXers at a RX this past year that said things arent like they use to be.

not a huge deal. times change. id like to venture into more autoX related stuff now that ive played with rallyx and track.

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'11 RallyX VP
1998 Integra Type R - track fun
1999 Subaru 2.5RS - dirt fun

me neither. although ive been in the club for 3-4 years, i did my first autoX with tarheel last year sometime. i think the fact i knew people helped. but with so many people at the events and the hussle and bussle of everyone trying to get things right i can see where its intimidating. not a huge deal. i dont know how welcoming thscc is to n00bs at these events (since ive only done 1).

we dont get enough n00bs at RX to really comment. but when we do they really enjoy their time and would like to come back.

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'11 RallyX VP
1998 Integra Type R - track fun
1999 Subaru 2.5RS - dirt fun

presumably it's in the same vein as "taking the first hit on the crack pipe" as we often say about people's first time on a racetrack

Steve, I didnt follow were you finished at every event, but I think you did fairly well. How do those that dont finish well feel about this topic? past 2 year's I have finished well in season points so I get excluded from having an opinion.

Neither Steve nor I placed top 3-4 in TIR till mid-ish 2010. That didn't keep us from having fun and forging friendships with: Carlton, Noah, Maria, Zach, Christian etc etc etc etc.

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2013/2014.5 President
2013 Top Gun

2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

Personalities play into this as well. When I came to the club I knew 4-5 people. I am the type that "has never met a stranger" and will talk to anyone . I am friendly and feel like I am friends with *most* of you

YMMV

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2005 Mazda RX8 STX 11

NCR Solo Chair & Cape Fear Chapter Coordinator
http://www.ncrscca.com

I think as a club as whole we all could work on being nicer and more open to working with "newbs".

I can tell from my own experience. The difference of folks talking with you when your driving a mid to low pack car(my 90 corrado) to having a top pack car(ugly miata) is totally different. Even the difference for myself between the past two years was different. I know I want to do more for/with the club, but with my family and work I just dont have the extra time to invest. So maybe that is it! I know we need to do something different but not exactly sure what it is. Wendy has been racing with me as long as I have been with the club 2004 ruffly and UNTIL the chicks school a few years ago she has always felt like an outsider!

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2000 miata se Estreet,going to rally
2004 mazdaspeed miata bsp #77
shifter kart also(someone buy this $1500)

While this is always true, I do think we have done a reasonable job of making people feel welcome. Not all the people who keep coming back are placing in the top tier. (Hell look at me, I generally suck but I keep coming back, but it could be cause I have no friends )

All amateur motorsports (and pro) are facing a decline. (the Lemons/chump is up because of the small numbers of participants).

Steve, sarcasm and drunk posting aside this topic was discussed in the other thread, if you want to keep discussing it can you at least stick to one thread

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1990 Faded Reddish CSP Lite Miata
2002 Electron Blue Corvette Z06
2005 Mazda 6 Wagon
2003 Nissan Pathfinder DTV (Dog Transport Vehicle)