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I think you can run some of the 4-cylinder 914's in STS2. I can't remember the exact model(s) but there was some discussion of that a bit ago on sccaforums.com I believe.

Somehow I can't see Ryan being interested in a 914, however. Well, unless it involves an LS1 conversion or something along those lines...

Jim

he would have to learn the German word for "tinker"

I think its something like "No thanks Hans, I left the lube at home"

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The 914 is a fun car, at least in the 70's it was – I have many miles of seat time in one. My father bought a 1973 914 2.0 new as a third car, and I still recall the day we picked it up at the dealer, Pray Porsche in Greenwich, CT. It was one of the first 2.0 cars in the country, and at that time Porsche hadn't decided whether to call it the "914 2.0" or "914S". Some early ads called it the 914S. Hence his car came with only "914" on the back, and they told him that in a few weeks he could bring it back for the proper emblem for the rear. It's even a bit crazier than that -- they also said that these early cars were not built with the correct front and rear sway bars, and that the proper parts would be available in a few weeks, so those will be installed then.

That was a fun car that I later (turned 16 in Jan 75) drove a lot...it taught me a lot about trailing throttle oversteer. The first autocross I ever did at Perimeter Mall in Atlanta in 1975, I did in the 914 too. I wish I had bought the car from him and kept it. He sold it in ~1986 or so still in good shape, and he got hardly anything for it as I recall.

Chuck

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1975 CanAm 125MX2

The thought for a long time is/was that the 924 would be a great ES car. len (forgot his last name and too lazy to look it up) campaigned one for a few years on the national level. He finished as high as 3rd at nationals with it.

The trouble is that so few of them are in stock form. Then there is the reliability and maintenance issues.

I say look for a fox body Mustang and move up to CMC. They are cheap, fast, easy to work on and a lot of go fast parts.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

The 240 could use an LSX as well. It's about the same weight, a few mpg more, and doubles the hp.

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I know a guy with a '96 M-edition miata, if you want something familiar. Its got some minor wiring issues, but its mechanically great, and HE bought it for less than you're hoping to spend, before knowing about the electrical problems (I think its just a starter relay, but it also has a super cool starter button installed!).

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I am obviously biased as I am building a SM2 or XP class 914 with a 3.0 or 3.2 911 engine,

But they are fun cars and the current one is my third. I have yet to drive an Elise, but those who own both say the Elise is the best comparison from a handling perspective to a properly setup 914. Stock they never did put out much power and you have to realize that they handled well considering most didn't even come with ANY sway bar front or rear but were still a hoot to drive.

I agree with Ryan regarding the cost however. With most 356s already spoken for, early 911s being snapped up quickly, the 914s are starting to be viewed as the next collectable Porsche. So prices are going up on the cars themselves. Especially if the car is in decent shape. And, if you do extensive upgrades, you are pretty much dealing with the pricing model targeted at the 911 crowd (has anyone priced the rebuild for a 911 engine these days!!)

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
http://motorsport.zyyz.com
Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

I've been casually looking at 914s, particularly the '73 2.0 since that was the most desirable one in most regards (excepting the 914-6), but I've only seen one semi-original car. Most all of these have been modified in many ways, are rusting (our car was lightly rusting in spots by 1976 with hardly any winter road exposure), or have simply been neglected for decades. Since nobody took them seriously, finding an original car in prime condition seems next to impossible. Hence, I can understand the price appreciation. If I was seriously in the market, I would see paying a good premium for the "right" car.

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2011 BMW M3 sedan slicktop 6MT
2007 BMW 328i wagon (slushbox for now)
1975 CanAm 125MX2

As a datapoint, it took fully prep's 914-6's to be competitive in A Stock and ASP against a stock in AS or almost stock in ASP 1.6 liter Lotus Europa with 116 HP, 1700 lbs, and 13 x 5.5 wheels. I'm not sure the Europa in similar trim would keep up with a well prep'd Miata these days.

Dick (Former owner/driver of said Europa)

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You can buy one locally for the low, low price of somewhere around $18K

http://www.theaircooledguys.com/Invento ... fault.aspx

I would guess a decent 73 or 74 2.0 would be in the $5-7K range. The car above is not concours level, but nearly so and is in Raleigh. Even then it was originally a 1.8 that was converted to a 2.0. Spending more to get a nice car is the right thing to do. I could have started with a nicer car for my project, but I knew going in that I was going to strip it down to bare metal, so some of that value would have been wasted. Regarding the rust, they all have it. It is just a question of how much. Hopefully when I will be done, mine will be 99% rust free.



In S, SP form a 914-4 or 914-6 is not competitive. It might do well locally. When compared to modern cars, it's main advantage is weight. Otherwise a Honda Civic is going to probably have just as good or better stock suspension design. Which is why mine will be far from stock! Just add bigger motor and bigger tires and have fun!

And I probably could fall in love with a Europa as well, but I am trying to keep my obsessions limited at the moment.

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
http://motorsport.zyyz.com
Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

I think you don't want to know....
For what I would like to have ( 3.4 or 3.5 ) we talking quite a lot.

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Patrice
1973 911 former track and AX car.
2016 VW GTI
2002 Nissan Sentra (Olivier car)
2012 Nissan Juke (Kathy car)
2010 Suzuki Kizashi (Audrey car)

yeah there was a nice 911 SC in a durham junkyard- everything was great except the motor was locked up...I looked up that number, and even just the parts and doing it yourself is a ridiculous price.

Here is the solution. I have always been intrigued by this conversion after seeing one at a HSCC event in Asheville a few years back.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner