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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:36 pm 
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RodneyWright wrote:
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A cheepo bluetooth OBD-II scanner should tell you if the coolant sensor is reading properly. If the water temp looks believable it's fine. Although, if it is reading I'm 100% confident you'd have a CEL since that would have a major impact on emissions and economy.


I scanned the car w/ my ODB II reader and found no codes. Also did not see any options to read temp parameters, but I can look again. This car has no coolant sensor, only the temp switch for the low speed fan mounted in the head. Not sure what triggers the high speed fan.



I'm guessing your OBDII code reader is just that- a code reader.

What James is talking about is an adapter that plugs in to the OBDII port, but then communicates to your smartphone via bluetooth. You can then use any number of free apps to get all sorts of nifty data in almost real time, such as coolant temp.


I've got one if you want to plug it up and give it a shot- they are VERY handy.



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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:05 pm 
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BretLuter wrote:
RodneyWright wrote:
JamesMilko wrote:
A cheepo bluetooth OBD-II scanner should tell you if the coolant sensor is reading properly. If the water temp looks believable it's fine. Although, if it is reading I'm 100% confident you'd have a CEL since that would have a major impact on emissions and economy.


I scanned the car w/ my ODB II reader and found no codes. Also did not see any options to read temp parameters, but I can look again. This car has no coolant sensor, only the temp switch for the low speed fan mounted in the head. Not sure what triggers the high speed fan.



I'm guessing your OBDII code reader is just that- a code reader.

What James is talking about is an adapter that plugs in to the OBDII port, but then communicates to your smartphone via bluetooth. You can then use any number of free apps to get all sorts of nifty data in almost real time, such as coolant temp.


I've got one if you want to plug it up and give it a shot- they are VERY handy.


Bret


Torque Pro is a good example of one of these Apps. https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... rque&hl=en

If you get an adapter be sure to buy a "major brand". I use a kiwi PLX. Torque Pro shows coolant temperature and tracks the gauge display in my 2015 with a couple of degrees lag behind cylinder head temp as the engine warms.

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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:47 pm 
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DickRasmussen wrote:
BretLuter wrote:
RodneyWright wrote:

I scanned the car w/ my ODB II reader and found no codes. Also did not see any options to read temp parameters, but I can look again. This car has no coolant sensor, only the temp switch for the low speed fan mounted in the head. Not sure what triggers the high speed fan.



I'm guessing your OBDII code reader is just that- a code reader.

What James is talking about is an adapter that plugs in to the OBDII port, but then communicates to your smartphone via bluetooth. You can then use any number of free apps to get all sorts of nifty data in almost real time, such as coolant temp.


I've got one if you want to plug it up and give it a shot- they are VERY handy.


Bret


Torque Pro is a good example of one of these Apps. https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... rque&hl=en

If you get an adapter be sure to buy a "major brand". I use a kiwi PLX. Torque Pro shows coolant temperature and tracks the gauge display in my 2015 with a couple of degrees lag behind cylinder head temp as the engine warms.



Yep. I use the "free" version of Torque, and it's great.

I bought an el-cheapo adapter (like $6) on Amazon and it worked great right out of the box. So I decided to get another one, in case I needed to use the app on 2 different cars at once. Long story short, I bought 4 different el-cheapo adapters from different sellers, and NONE of them worked. I ended up springing for the $24 BAFX brand adapter on Amazon that was well-reviewed and it works like a champ, (but no better or worse than the $6 one).

I've used this to diagnose a problem with a vacuum leak, a bad O2 sensor and it's just so cool to be able to see the the data in almost real time.


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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:19 pm 
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BretLuter wrote:
Yep. I use the "free" version of Torque, and it's great.

I bought an el-cheapo adapter (like $6) on Amazon and it worked great right out of the box. So I decided to get another one, in case I needed to use the app on 2 different cars at once. Long story short, I bought 4 different el-cheapo adapters from different sellers, and NONE of them worked. I ended up springing for the $24 BAFX brand adapter on Amazon that was well-reviewed and it works like a champ, (but no better or worse than the $6 one).

I've used this to diagnose a problem with a vacuum leak, a bad O2 sensor and it's just so cool to be able to see the the data in almost real time.


Well, I guess I'm going shopping on Amazon tomorrow....

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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 1:44 am 
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If you have an iphone you will need a wifi version of the adapter, android works with bluetooth.

I have one that looks just like this: http://www.amazon.com/ieGeek%C2%AE-Wire ... rds=elm327

I don't think it's that specific brand but pretty sure they're all manufactured by the same company but somebody just slaps their own label on it.

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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:32 am 
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According to info on the Torque App page the adapter concern is whether they use a clone chip that may not work with CANBUS in newer cars.

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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:29 am 
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Sorry, should have been clearer. I'm talking about the bluetooth dongle with an android app. I've had good results with the adapter that looks like the one in Chad's link.


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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:47 am 
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I don't remember which BT dongle I ordered exactly, but does anyone else have to pair the damn thing every_single_time they use it? I don't have to use it often since I down have any German cars, but when I do it's annoying having to pair the dongle with the phone each time.

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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 1:39 pm 
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Vincent Keene wrote:
I don't remember which BT dongle I ordered exactly, but does anyone else have to pair the damn thing every_single_time they use it? I don't have to use it often since I down have any German cars, but when I do it's annoying having to pair the dongle with the phone each time.


FYI the wiki PLX bluetooth OBD adapter I have does NOT need re-pairing with my Droid Maxx.

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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 1:59 pm 
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My cheepo china one doesn't need to be paired every time either with any of my Android devices.


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 Post subject: Re: need mustang help
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:18 am 
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JamesMilko wrote:
My cheepo china one doesn't need to be paired every time either with any of my Android devices.


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