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 Post subject: would a revolutionary battery be enough?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:25 am 
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If some upstart company developed a new battery technology that was 1/4 the weight. 4X's the capacity, and none of the toxic byproducts of the current batteries used in Electric cars, do you think it would be enough to revolutionize the industry? Say one that would allow a sedan to go 400 miles between charges and also work with trickle charges from on car solar units for a few extra miles.

Or would the facts like it would still take a long time to charge on standard 110 or 220 home units and such still kill it. Or information (or misinformation) needed being published throughout the media about electrical infrastructure, or other items published by legitimate groups and propaganda spread by conflicting industries still be there and too great of an influence.

Would it revolutionize the auto industry, making the I/C engine be the exception and not the rule in 5-10 years?

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I don't think you can make an environmentally "friendly" battery. The chemist in me says it can't be done.

At some point, the charging method for the batteries will become relevant. I really don't want the cost of heating and cooling my house to go through the roof because we are all charging our cars, nevermind the fact the cost to charge my car would be going through the roof at the same time.

Electric cars are cool and all, but a plug in car in every garage will cause new problems. At this point, the solution to those problems is fossil fuels. It just turns into natural gas or coal, vs petrol.

Meat production is a much bigger greenhouse issue anyhow...

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scottjohnson wrote:

Electric cars are cool and all, but a plug in car in every garage will cause new problems. At this point, the solution to those problems is fossil fuels. It just turns into natural gas or coal, vs petrol.



true points, but here's an interesting little fact. Over 70% of people surveyed said they have added a refridgerator in their garage in the last 5 years. They run about the same or even a bit more than most electric cars charging.

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scottjohnson wrote:
I don't think you can make an environmentally "friendly" battery. The chemist in me says it can't be done.


http://www.azocleantech.com/Details.asp?newsID=6823

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Ryan Holton wrote:
scottjohnson wrote:
I don't think you can make an environmentally "friendly" battery. The chemist in me says it can't be done.


http://www.azocleantech.com/Details.asp?newsID=6823


My father in law is an engineer at a company that makes silicon rods for use in the microchip and solar cell business.

The process is decidedly un-friendly to the environment.

Regardless, it's a cool technology, and might have a useful application in 30 years...

Thanks for the link.


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I would say battery technology is the biggest bottle neck in any mobile industry (cell phones, cars, etc).

It may not be the only thing that prevents hybrid and plug in cars from being there best, but it is certainly a very big item.

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scottjohnson wrote:
Ryan Holton wrote:
scottjohnson wrote:
I don't think you can make an environmentally "friendly" battery. The chemist in me says it can't be done.


http://www.azocleantech.com/Details.asp?newsID=6823


My father in law is an engineer at a company that makes silicon rods for use in the microchip and solar cell business.

The process is decidedly un-friendly to the environment.

Regardless, it's a cool technology, and might have a useful application in 30 years...

Thanks for the link.


I thought it was pretty damn interesting as well. Here is the first article I read on it

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 5547719698

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 Post subject: Re: would a revolutionary battery be enough?
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Marty Howard wrote:
If some upstart company developed a new battery technology that was 1/4 the weight. 4X's the capacity, and none of the toxic byproducts of the current batteries used in Electric cars, do you think it would be enough to revolutionize the industry?


And what about the price? All batteries have a lifespan and the cost vs. that lifespan would be a huge consideration.

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