Hyundai Genesis Coupe R-spec to debut at Sema.

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:50 pm

Wow, what a coincidence! Spratte and I came to the same conclusion about an STi for a ProSolo car next year. Now if I can just convince him to forget about those sketchy PSS9's.

Jim

David Spratte · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:16 pm

JamesFeinberg wrote:

Wow, what a coincidence! Spratte and I came to the same conclusion about an STi for a ProSolo car next year. Now if I can just convince him to forget about those sketchy PSS9's.

Jim

I told you about the sick "Owner Loyalty" stuff Subaru has, right?

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:24 pm

JamesFeinberg wrote:

Wow, what a coincidence! Spratte and I came to the same conclusion about an STi for a ProSolo car next year. Now if I can just convince him to forget about those sketchy PSS9's.

Jim

Bring it... punk

- AB

JasonWatts · **Posted:** Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:27 am

For those who care, I found a few of these car's setting on a lot over in durahm. They were all auto's though.

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:52 pm

well, the camber bolts are out.

Quote:

Stock: per the SAC, the “trunk kit” alignment bolts for the Hyundai Genesis R-spec are not legal for use in the Stock category, as they do not meet the requirements of 13.0. The submitted letter states that the part is for “off-highway use”, which does not comply with section 3.8.A of the Solo rules, requiring that all manufacturer’s documentation must be for non-competition purposes. Documentation for non-competition use from the factory service manual or a service bulletin would be required in order to make the part legal for use in the Stock category as a standard part. (ref. 09-716)

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:29 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

JamesFeinberg wrote:

Wow, what a coincidence! Spratte and I came to the same conclusion about an STi for a ProSolo car next year. Now if I can just convince him to forget about those sketchy PSS9's.

Jim

Bring it... punk

- AB

Does this mean instead of selling all those STi parts I still have left to Aaron that I can auction them off to the both of them?

First on the block: Setup notes.

:twisted:

--Donnie

Karl Shultz · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:01 am

Marty Howard wrote:

well, the camber bolts are out.

Quote:

Stock: per the SAC, the “trunk kit” alignment bolts for the Hyundai Genesis R-spec are not legal for use in the Stock category, as they do not meet the requirements of 13.0. The submitted letter states that the part is for “off-highway use”, which does not comply with section 3.8.A of the Solo rules, requiring that all manufacturer’s documentation must be for non-competition purposes. Documentation for non-competition use from the factory service manual or a service bulletin would be required in order to make the part legal for use in the Stock category as a standard part. (ref. 09-716)

That's a pretty big miss. I wonder if Hyundai will eventually revise the wording.

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:05 am

Nice try Donnie. Feinberg has no interest in a STI, so you're stuck with me

As for the Hyundai Genesis Spec R camber bolt issue, while I have no dog in the fight, but I was surprised it wasn't allowed. If I wanted a GS car, I would still by an '05 Neon ACR. - AB

Karl Shultz · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:35 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

As for the Hyundai Genesis Spec R camber bolt issue, while I have no dog in the fight, but I was surprised it wasn't allowed. If I wanted a GS car, I would still by an '05 Neon ACR. - AB

Well, there's that. :lol:

Someone last year said it best, I think it may have been Wes. "$1500, 19" tires to go G-Stock speed? Really?"

Keith Vail · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:26 pm

Karl Shultz wrote:

Someone last year said it best, I think it may have been Wes. "$1500, 19" tires to go G-Stock speed? Really?"

I remember hearing that the guy who ran one last year got only 20 runs to a pair of fronts and saying I did that with one car in DS but those were 18" tires. Why the hell would I try it again to go slower and spend even more on tires?

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:31 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

Nice try Donnie. Feinberg has no interest in a STI, so you're stuck with me

Maybe. There is a rumor going around that I bought a new BS car with a wing on the back. And it should make a *great* ProSolo car...

On the other hand, I won't be bidding on anything. You know me-- just slap some tires on it with a mystery alignment and go! Setup is overrated!

Jim

Keith Quistorff · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:15 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

I have to talk to Donnie, but I know they were breaking endlinks fairly regularly, but I would just plan on have plenty of spares.

Aaron - Donnie should correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure his end link problem was the same as several other autocrossers have reported on STi's with massive front sway bars and sticky tires. IIRC, the end link itself is not the problem, it's breakage of the end link tab on the lower control arm (which is part of the arm casting, requiring the entire arm to be replaced when this failure occurs).

If so, you could always keep a pair of spare arms with you in case of failure. But if the failure occurs during an event, you're probably done for the day.

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:33 pm

Keith Quistorff wrote:

Aaron - Donnie should correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure his end link problem was the same as several other autocrossers have reported on STi's with massive front sway bars and sticky tires. IIRC, the end link itself is not the problem, it's breakage of the end link tab on the lower control arm (which is part of the arm casting, requiring the entire arm to be replaced when this failure occurs).

If so, you could always keep a pair of spare arms with you in case of failure. But if the failure occurs during an event, you're probably done for the day.

Agreed. Donnie has a set of control arms that will be purchased, and I'll probably buy another set as well. In regards to being done for the day, I'm planning on getting good at string alignments so that I could get the car up and running if needed in a critical situation. I might even practice doing it just to get competent at the procedure. - AB

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:06 pm

You guys are funny.

First, you shouldn't have this issue with that newer custom bar. We found out later that it was the way the Addco bar was bent combined with the type of endlink we HAD to use (which was also thanks to the bend, strangely enough) caused the endlink to bit the control arm and bind at extreme ends of the suspension travel. So it was putting torque on that tab in a way it wasn't meant to be torqued at all (not just too much torque) and eventually would break it.

So I'm not entirely sure you'd ever need the control arms. That said, if *I* were racing the thing, I'd make sure and have a set at big events just in case.

But you definitely don't want to have to change one at the site. You have to pull the entire front subframe loose to do it. It's pretty ugly. It took Courtney a good couple hours to swap one control arm for me, which means it would have taken me about 40 hours to do it. Okay, not quite that many, but you get the idea. He's GOOD.

--Donnie

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:35 pm

Donnie Barnes wrote:

You guys are funny.

First, you shouldn't have this issue with that newer custom bar. We found out later that it was the way the Addco bar was bent combined with the type of endlink we HAD to use (which was also thanks to the bend, strangely enough) caused the endlink to bit the control arm and bind at extreme ends of the suspension travel. So it was putting torque on that tab in a way it wasn't meant to be torqued at all (not just too much torque) and eventually would break it.

So I'm not entirely sure you'd ever need the control arms. That said, if *I* were racing the thing, I'd make sure and have a set at big events just in case.

But you definitely don't want to have to change one at the site. You have to pull the entire front subframe loose to do it. It's pretty ugly. It took Courtney a good couple hours to swap one control arm for me, which means it would have taken me about 40 hours to do it. Okay, not quite that many, but you get the idea. He's GOOD.

--Donnie

Good to know. Screw Addco!

- AB

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