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RobLupella
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Poor Flavio, he will probably just be moping around the house the rest of the season with the old ball and chain:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... -ride.html


The two of them just look so 'right' together. That's really sweet.


I actually read that article, did you know he fathered a child with HEIDI KLUM???? I can't comment any further on a family forum.


There were words in the article :?: :shock:
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Matchett/Hobbs/Windsor said something to the effect that Ferrari were already up 30HP over other teams during the Monza coverage. He was reporting on garage scuttlebutt. Not that Ferrari would evAr receive preferential treatment ...

More on topic, the Fifth Beatle and Flava Flav co-own the Queens Park Rangers football club. It'll be interesting to see how Bernie spins this one.

I may have misheard, but I thought they said that it was Mercedes and not Ferrari that was 20-30 HP up on everyone else? Just look at the top finishing positions of Mercedes powered cars vs. everyone else. :whoknows:


It was Mercedes, Wes just hates the red team so much that he mistranslates his hearing. :wink: :P
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I guess that that's why Kimi used more fuel than Fisi did at Spa. :shrug:

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I guess that that's why Kimi used more fuel than Fisi did at Spa. :shrug:


Interestingly enough it's apparently fuel consumption that will be a big factor for next year. With no refueling, it looks like teams will have to balance power vs. economy in a big way. If your engine is thirsty, then you have to carry more fuel at the start which causes you to run heavy which slows you down. This is what people are saying will be the hardest thing for Cosworth to deal with. That they may be able to generate the power but that they probably will not be able to get the economy of the current engines.

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With no refueling


Even with no refueling, Ferrari will still find SOMEWAY to screw it up. :evil:

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Even with no refueling, Ferrari will still find SOMEWAY to screw it up. :evil:


No matter how fancy it always goes back to Ahh Fix it Again Tony!

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Interesting article on Autosport. Looks to have much of the info that the FIA has including copies of interviews and telemetry data...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78682

Overall, it looks pretty damning for Symonds and Briatore. It also appears that others on the team were in the dark as based upon radio transmissions they were unsure why Alonso was to be brought in early (prior to accident), etc. Also people on the team also was curious about the timing of the accident after the race (along with many others).

After reading this new article, I wonder if they may let Renault off with a slap of the wrist, but do something like ban Symonds and Briatore from F1 for a long period of time.

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I wonder if they may let Renault off with a slap of the wrist, but do something like ban Symonds and Briatore from F1 for a long period of time.


Info here...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78770

* Renault gets a two year ban, but ban it is suspended (slap on wrist)
* Briatore is banned indefinitely.
* Symonds is banned for five years.

Briatore is effectively "dead" as far as the FIA is concerned. He can't participate in any way including being a driver manager.

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... ouch that really hurt Renault. I'm sure it will take years concessions to soften the blow of this harsh punishment.

... and now bringing you back to reality... F1 will be the same entertaining soap opera of the rich and ridiculous again this time next year... and Flavio will be feeling no pain.

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no different than any other form of racing, just involves bigger $$, Euros, GBPs etal
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