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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:33 pm 
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Anyone up for a bike ride thursday.

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I think I can make it Marcus... Just got back from 286 a couple hours ago.


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I forgot about the NC State game thurs. Are you working thurs? Maybe we could go earlier or friday. Hell, we could go this weekend if you want. The weather is going to be kick ass this weekend.

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I forgot about the NC State game thurs. Are you working thurs? Maybe we could go earlier or friday. Hell, we could go this weekend if you want. The weather is going to be kick ass this weekend.


Oh yeah, the game. I forgot too...

I'm off Friday but working this weekend.


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I'll be riding here this weekend:

http://www.bmcc.us/kerr_scott.htm

Highly recommended for those who don't mind a little bit of a drive for something different. It's in North Wilkesboro, which really isn't a bad drive for triangle folks. Should be under two hours for everyone, I'd guess (except maybe those of you on the east side of Raleigh). There are pretty good climbs, but they still aren't terribly mountain-esque like the stuff in Pisgah near Brevard. I'm training for a triathlon at that same location, too. For those of you, like me, who say "but I hate the swim", check this out:

http://www.darkmtnchallenge.com/

Yes, the order is paddle/run/bike, which might seem odd, but you probably don't want to hold a handlebar after paddling three miles anyway. :) And if you want to skip the water part all together, they do have a duathlon, too.


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Donnie Barnes wrote:

For those of you, like me, who say "but I hate the swim", check this out:

http://www.darkmtnchallenge.com/

Yes, the order is paddle/run/bike, which might seem odd, but you probably don't want to hold a handlebar after paddling three miles anyway. :) And if you want to skip the water part all together, they do have a duathlon, too.


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But I hate the run.

Matt, I'm down with friday if you want to. What time do you want to go?

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I always hated running, too, until I found trail running. I find that tolerable. No time to start thinking about being tired or this little pain or that. You have to pay attention to what you're doing (unlike road running) and thus you end up putting in the miles before you really know it. It's also easier on the joints, especially if you get some good trail running shoes.

But there are a good many mtn bike only races out there, too. Hoping to start hitting a few of those in 2010. There's one or two per year right here in Chapel Hill...


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MarcusMcRae wrote:

But I hate the run.

Matt, I'm down with friday if you want to. What time do you want to go?


Doesn't really matter to me. Noon? I'll buzz you tomorrow...

Donnie, I saw info for that Dark Mountain tri and it looks really cool (for those that know a thing or two about paddling).

Dark Mountain is definitely a place I'd like to check out before the end of the season. I hear it's great and definitely not like anything around here. Sure beats driving >5 hrs. to Tsali if you're not camping.


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Matt McGrain wrote:
Donnie, I saw info for that Dark Mountain tri and it looks really cool (for those that know a thing or two about paddling).


You really don't need to know much about paddling. You can rent a boat for the race and it'll be something relatively stable and easy to paddle, I'm sure. Plus they do handicap the boats, so people in 18' long 35# boats won't have as much of an advantage. I do have a bit of an advantage in that I have a pond here to train in and own a few boats, I admit. But if you have any other use for it, you can find boats on Craigslist for a couple hundred bucks that would be suitable. There are plenty of public ponds around the triangle to get some "seat time" in.

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Dark Mountain is definitely a place I'd like to check out before the end of the season. I hear it's great and definitely not like anything around here. Sure beats driving >5 hrs. to Tsali if you're not camping.


Tsali is pretty, but IMHO isn't a good place to mountain bike. The trails are too easy since they're all built to be horse friendly, too. So they are long and somewhat majestic with long climbs, but there just isn't much technical about them to make them interesting, IMHO. Dark Mountain is much better in that regard. My trails here at my house are much better in that regard. :)

If you want to do a trip to some good riding, the Pisgah stuff near Brevard is WAY better than Tsali and a little bit closer (though not much). Me and some guys do a four day trip each year out there and there's some stellar stuff. I'm starting to find that there's more in the Boone/Blowing Rock area than is advertised, too, but will know more on that soon. If I find something good I'll try to post here about it, because that area is only 3 hours for most and other than summer and leaf peeper season, it's pretty cheap to get a hotel and there's lots of other things for significant others to do (and even things to take kids to do).


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Tsali is Tsali - it's own deal; seems to be more like what most people describe Western biking as but with trees and lakes. I like it, especially in the fall and as a way to introduce beginners and all have a good time.

I love Pisgah, the only problem I have there now is that everything fun is way too hard - I'm a weekend warrior these days (sadly) and my days of leaving work and riding Bent Creek until dark 3 days a week are over. Have you discovered the Hendersonville Reservoir area? It is a notch harder than Bent Creek and some fairly long loops are possible, especially if you're willing to do a bit of road riding on the Parkway to connect things.

A good area with some HARD rides is where I used to live - Black Mountain. The local shop (well named - Epic Cycles) has mapped out some majority singletrack loops up to ~100 miles (!) and 5-digits of total climb. The infamous ride known as Kitsuma is one of my favorite short(ish) ones there - a grind to the top of a peak next to Ridgecrest/I-40 then almost unbroken downhill ~5 miles to near Old Fort, taking the old broken up HWY 64 roadbed back up to Ridgecrest.

Please do share anything you find about the Boone area. It seems the locals are exceedingly tight with info except to say "head towards Linville" and the like.

Marcus, where are you heading tomorrow? I might be able to go for a change.

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Kevin Hoff wrote:
Tsali is Tsali - it's own deal; seems to be more like what most people describe Western biking as but with trees and lakes. I like it, especially in the fall and as a way to introduce beginners and all have a good time.


I'd agree with that.

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I love Pisgah, the only problem I have there now is that everything fun is way too hard - I'm a weekend warrior these days (sadly) and my days of leaving work and riding Bent Creek until dark 3 days a week are over. Have you discovered the Hendersonville Reservoir area? It is a notch harder than Bent Creek and some fairly long loops are possible, especially if you're willing to do a bit of road riding on the Parkway to connect things.

A good area with some HARD rides is where I used to live - Black Mountain. The local shop (well named - Epic Cycles) has mapped out some majority singletrack loops up to ~100 miles (!) and 5-digits of total climb. The infamous ride known as Kitsuma is one of my favorite short(ish) ones there - a grind to the top of a peak next to Ridgecrest/I-40 then almost unbroken downhill ~5 miles to near Old Fort, taking the old broken up HWY 64 roadbed back up to Ridgecrest.


Never ridden the Hendersonville or Black Mountain areas. Will have to mention that stuff to the group I ride with. They're pretty hard core about this Pisgah thing as they've been doing that trip for like eight years straight now. Most of them are in pretty amazing shape, so the trip is actually quite tough for me (I've done it two years now and each year only ridden two of the four days...the first day is "short" at only 14 or so miles, but something about the altitude acclimation gets to me so then I do the third day which is between 25-32 miles, same as day two and day four). But that's the most my body has yet been able to handle.

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Please do share anything you find about the Boone area. It seems the locals are exceedingly tight with info except to say "head towards Linville" and the like.


Agreed. Sounds like there's a LOT of Forest Service and National Park land around that isn't completely legal to ride (as in most of it is, but small parts aren't) that bikers are finding more and more of. Plus conservation efforts have been fruitful lately (see my blog post about the CTNC hike I went on) but not without concessions on the environmentalists parts to allow for recreational uses more than just foot traffic. So it'll be a long time before there are published maps and signs marking the trails, but in this day of everyone using a GPS of some kind anyway, it's not going to be terribly difficult to find stuff. I've found a few promising loops on MotionBased.com already that are using some trail I've hiked and been told about, and the most cool thing about a few of these rides is that they have some epic downhill that you *could* do a shuttle thing and not bother with the climb if you wanted to. ;) Will keep you posted...may try one of these this weekend.

Last time I asked about rides in the area at the bike shop in Boone this kid was like "Here's a map, go ride Dark Mountain." When I explained that was cool but we were hoping for something technical much closer he said "well, here's a link to one of the rides I like on motionbased.com" but went on to say he hadn't mapped how to get in and out from the trailhead to where you park and that you had to go through a couple people's yards and don't miss this little trail "right by the church" and then blah blah blah and we just gave up thinking we'd even find that one. *sigh* So I know what you mean about the locals not being much help. And he *was* trying to be helpful (first one I found that was).


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I think Marcus and I are going to try to ride Beaver Dam again on Thursday if anyone's up for it. Anywhere from 11-18 miles.

It's free during the week.


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