"come on home girl" he said with a smile.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:35 pm

you don't have to love me, and let's get high awhile.

i'm seriously trying, but John McCain as the Magic Man is a bit of a stretch for me. or maybe it is the amount of smoke i tend to equate with that song, and that era. if only he wasn't a member of george bush's party. McCain's hands are tied; oddly enough, again.

oh yeah, he is 70 billion years old and they are playing Heart songs after his speech. i'll bet even his kids don't have any idea who the band Heart is. not to mention the lyrics. light'em if you got 'em my beaubies. peace.

Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:32 am

steve remchak wrote:

i'll bet even his kids don't have any idea who the band Heart is. not to mention the lyrics. light'em if you got 'em my beaubies. peace.

Yo, Stevie, dude, you're about the same age as his oldest son and you know who Heart is......what does that say? Smoke'um if you got um. :wink:

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:59 am

steve remchak wrote:

i'm seriously trying, but John McCain as the Magic Man is a bit of a stretch for me. or maybe it is the amount of smoke i tend to equate with that song, and that era. if only he wasn't a member of george bush's party. McCain's hands are tied; oddly enough, again.

There was a stir about Palin's usage of "Barracuda" too. Maybe he should have used it instead? :lol:

clinehall · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:19 am

I have got to say this is the most interesting campaign I remember. It appears that is has been reduced to image or percieved image. I would really like to propose a complete do over.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:02 am

clinehall wrote:

I have got to say this is the most interesting campaign I remember. It appears that is has been reduced to image or percieved image. I would really like to propose a complete do over.

i tend to agree.

clinehall · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:25 am

steve remchak wrote:

clinehall wrote:

I have got to say this is the most interesting campaign I remember. It appears that is has been reduced to image or percieved image. I would really like to propose a complete do over.

i tend to agree.

Hmm, Steve and I agreeing on politics. Is beer next?

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:19 pm

I do find it interesting that speeches (especially the convention speeches) seem to count for so much. I mean, here are candidates (both parties, obviously), speaking words that have been written by someone else, in exactly the manner that they have been coached on and practicing for hours. And everyone (it seems) uses the impressions they get from those performances to "inform" their decisions.

clinehall wrote:

Hmm, Steve and I agreeing on politics. Is beer next?

Yes! Beer next! :toast:

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

Regarding the musical selections for the GOP convention, I was also a bit surprised, but on the other hand, the median age of the delegates is about .. my age, so you play to the audience you have, right? I didn't watch much of the Democratic convention other than Obama's speech from Mount Olympus, but I suspect they never played "Happy Days are Here Again", at least during the televised portions.

Sure they practice. Sure they have speechwriters. But if you don't believe in the message you're delivering, I don't think you're going to give a good speech. In my memory, I don't recall four more eloquent candidates for Pres/VP. In the past few elections, jokes and complaints about the lack of eloquence of the candidates (directed at both sides, though Bush caught the lion's share of the snickering) have distracted us from the real business of understanding and assessing their arguments. This time, we can concentrate more on the substance of their messages and decide which ones better represent our beliefs and priorities.

That said, I'm a little politic'ed out tonight. Heading downstairs to pop my Smokey and The Bandit DVD in the player, and hoist a Diet Coke in Jerry Reed's memory.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Carl Fisher wrote:

I do find it interesting that speeches (especially the convention speeches) seem to count for so much. I mean, here are candidates (both parties, obviously), speaking words that have been written by someone else, in exactly the manner that they have been coached on and practicing for hours. And everyone (it seems) uses the impressions they get from those performances to "inform" their decisions.

The very same speechwriters write State of the Union addresses, Saturday radio addresses, foreign head-of-state visit welcome messages, speeches before the UN, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:44 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

Carl Fisher wrote:

I do find it interesting that speeches (especially the convention speeches) seem to count for so much. I mean, here are candidates (both parties, obviously), speaking words that have been written by someone else, in exactly the manner that they have been coached on and practicing for hours. And everyone (it seems) uses the impressions they get from those performances to "inform" their decisions.

The very same speechwriters write State of the Union addresses, Saturday radio addresses, foreign head-of-state visit welcome messages, speeches before the UN, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

if only i could bring myself to believe any of those speeches would actually materialize into real world accomplishments on either side of the aisle.

jaded at the tender age of 48. the polictical process is seriously FUBAR'd

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