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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:24 am 
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Bumping this one back up ... if anyone knows of a cheap bowrider around let me know. Will consider a v6 I/O or a larger outboard.

In need of repair OK but want to find something with a decent interior not in need of too many repairs.

Budget is $1-4k depending on what is wrong.

Thanks! (and don't bother trying to talk me out of it, I'm not capable of learning from other people's mistakes :) )

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mike, i'm in the market as well. for your price point, pickings will be slim. i'm looking for around $5k and i haven't found much. i've been told that prices will drop and availability will go up in the fall, so i'm going to hold out till then.

here's a couple i found:

1988 17' Stingray 165 I/O - $4500 - http://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/1790278605.html

1988 Chaparral 198XL - $6000 - http://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/1790041055.html

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Thanks Chris. For whatever reason I'm seeing better deals near Norfolk and near Charlotte ... for what it's worth.

I'm also going up to Michigan next week and I plan to bring my checkbook and a hitch with me :) Hoping to find something on a fire-sale :)

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Mike, go to craigslist and search the boat section for "rent". Do that this summer, then pick one up in the fall. Just my suggestion. Seems to me that 90% of the stuff on craigslist right now is junk, and the other 10% is overpriced.

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I remain astounded at just how much traffic the Raleigh Craigslist gets in the boat section per day. You'd have to be hitting it a couple times per day to make sure and not miss any killer deals, since you likely aren't the only person looking in that price range for something like that.

I was pretty happy to nail a deal on a $300 jon boat with trailer, but I was hitting it often...


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MikeWhitney wrote:
For whatever reason I'm seeing better deals near Norfolk...


I have family in Va Beach. We were up there last weekend, and noticed the lower boat prices too. One reason is they have a REDICULOUS amount of boats up there - so many boats in a concentrated area because there is so much water access - bays, inlets, etc. We had a view to the Lynnhaven inlet all weekend, and the boat traffic was non-stop. Way more than any NC beach I've been to. And we live 5 miles from a Jordan Lake boat ramp, so I'm used to seeing a lot of boat traffic.

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i'm steering clear of anything that has touched salt water.

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i'm steering clear of anything that has touched salt water.


I don't get this at all. It all has to with how well the boat was maintained.

My father's outboard boat was purchased used in 1981. It still runs today and has never had a rebuild. Except for the occasional cape fear river trip, it was used exclusively in salt water.

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
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i'm steering clear of anything that has touched salt water.


I don't get this at all. It all has to with how well the boat was maintained.

My father's outboard boat was purchased used in 1981. It still runs today and has never had a rebuild. Except for the occasional cape fear river trip, it was used exclusively in salt water.


i agree, but from what i understand the maintenance on a saltwater boat is more extensive than freshwater, so the risk goes up...plus, i have no idea how to maintain a saltwater boat, so i'd be buying blind so to speak.

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
I don't get this at all. It all has to with how well the boat was maintained.

My father's outboard boat was purchased used in 1981. It still runs today and has never had a rebuild. Except for the occasional cape fear river trip, it was used exclusively in salt water.


Your fathers engine is the exception not the rule. folks on the coast who know what they're doing always look for a freshwater boat. cause you just don't know whether the last guy has always flushed the engine after use in salt water. Corrosion on the boat is always greater in the salt atmosphere. So as a rule of thumb Chris is spot on in MHO.
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okay, so when it's time for me to sell my boat, I should lie and say it's never been in salt water. I'll take note of that.

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
okay, so when it's time for me to sell my boat, I should lie and say it's never been in salt water. I'll take note of that.


Note to self, don't buy anything from Jason...

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Mission accomplished. Picked up a 1992 18.5' Sunbird bowrider in need of TLC and some interior work but with a very good powertrain. OMC 4.3 V6 i/o. Chevy block, Holley carb, and electric fuel pump. Spent a day wet sanding the severely faded maroon gelcoat and it's looking pretty good! Got it for $1800. Sure there is some duct tape holding the interior together, but it floats :)

Took her out today and it was running like a top, until the motor just flat died out on the water (with the family onboard). Drifted in and beached it, fortunately we were only 30 seconds from the beach, and went to work diagnosing. Checked the stupid stuff first ... fuses and circuit breakers fine, cap and wires, ignition switch, battery, controls, etc. When trying to restart I found it would work for a moment after priming, so I suspected the fuel pump and wiring, not ignition. I had a decent toolkit but did not have any electrical diag tools, so I went to the truck and snagged my lighter power plug extension cable (which has an LED showing power), cut the plug, and stripped the bare ends to use it as a 12v test light. Figured out that for some reason the fuel pump must have stopped running. I think it was from some grease/oil on the main fuel pump relay. But to be safe I jumpered the pump direct from the battery and yay! she's alive.

Just about that time my friend Dennis motors up to give me a tow back to the ramp, and his engine quits. He finds out he's out of gas. Literally 20 feet away from me, when he idled up to tow me back. Good thing I just got my boat running....

At this point it's about 4:00 and some seriously dark clouds, and a lot of lightning are heading for us. I wanted to get out of the water fast, not looking forward to being in a hurry at the ramp since it's my first time.

So now I'm in a hastily repaired POS boat, my first time in the water, faced with the possibility of death by lightning, and I have to tow a boat to the dock at the same time 10000 other people are anxiously trying to get their boats out of the water. Did I mention that the winds are picking up pretty fierce?

Amazingly we get out OK but I made 2 rookie mistakes. First I was at a bit of an angle pulling on the trailer (did I mention the hurricane force winds?) and chipped a few spots of gelcoat from hitting the trailer at an angle. Then I pulled the boat out without trimming the damn outdrive up, scratching the prop in the process. Won't ever do that again.

A few beers later the trauma has passed, and now I want to go out again and try to do it the _right_ way :) I'm going to wire up a fuel pump light so I can see whether cutout happens again, and be sure to bring adequate tools along for troubleshooting, jumpering, and making wiring out on the water.

In all it's a lot like going to the track -- someone's gonna break, someone's gonna hit something, but you make friends and everyone is willing to help. Big difference is that the kids and wife stay happier at the beach than at the track :) Drama is fun, as long as no one is getting hurt!

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Mike,

Have fun. My boss and another coworker have been dealing with the joys of a used boat recently. They just had to rebuild the engine (one of the GM V-6's) due to internal failure. Lots of "non automotive" parts in the boat version.

Regarding the fuel issue, have you researched the E10 phase separation issues in a high moisture environment? Google.

Is this a carb engine?

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Congrats on the purchase. Planning on going out this weekend? I assume you're at Lake Jordan?

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