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Well, if you guys come up with a name, I'm all ears.

On the S2000 boards, there's certainly plenty of talk. Lots of threads to the effect of "We're the Acme Corporation, and we're going to start building bolt-in roll bars for S2000s." But I've never actually seen anything come of any of it. It's been going on for years.

The one solution that allegedly existed was from a company called Elda Engineering, which is now defunct. The occasional used example fetches a LOT of money second hand, if you can find one, which you generally can't.

Even if something does come to pass Marty, I'd have to say I'm pretty unlikely to do it. I'm not cutting up another nice car in order to be able to use it on track - I've done that once already and don't plan on repeating that mistake, unless this bolt-in design is VERY clever.

Anyway, if anyone sees anything about a bolt-in bar that will...

A. pass a Solo 1 tech
B. Be safe
c. Not destroy the car
D. Not overly restrict fore/aft adjustment of the seats
E. Allow proper operation of the factory soft top

...I'd be quite interested. To this point, as far as I'm aware, there isn't anything that meets the above five requirements.

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I have a hard time believing that the CR will be allowed in AS now that an S2000 just won AS at Nationals. I feel the CR will destroy every previous S2000 because it weighs some 90 lbs less and has much stiffer springs and sways. But then again what do I know. I would sure foil any idea I had of getting a used S2k at some point.

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To make matters that much more interesting, the garden variety 2008 S2000 also has stiffer springs, shocks and swaybars than the 00-07 cars, if memory serves. The CR stuff is stiffer still.

Hmm...does stock class allow update/backdate? (kidding...)

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The 99 lb. differential is contingent upon the hard top being removed (of course) and not opting for the 'audio' package which includes a/c.

I'm psyched on the idea of a hardtop along with a tighter steering ratio (13.8 vs. 14.9:1). The wing, well, I'll have to see that in person.

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I would say that making the steering ratio even tighter would make the car harder to drive at an autocross. It already knifes bad enough. Any more so, and it might become hard to modulate... - AB

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Hard to imagine autox steering being too quick . . . 1.5 turns lock-to-lock on my FF still requires fast hands in many situations (turning circle is about 38 feet, max inside wheel steering angle is about 28 degrees, tiny steering wheel)

FYI in 2005 when I drove Miles Beam's Vette I also drove my FFat a couple of events. I had no difficulty adjusting to the relative steering ratios. No problem adjusting between my tow vehicle (Dodge Van) and the formula car either. Just give your muscles and brain a little "drive around time" to get used to the car the first time. After that no problem.

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I will guarantee you that not a single person who would buy one would ever autocross it with the hardtop on, potentially even in the rain just because of the extra weight. The other side is that with the a/c and audio being an option that most people that tow their autocross cars will either buy one without that option or remove them. Heck Steve Wynveen's S2k that just sold was a 2001 and had less than 20,000 miles (13,000 sticks in my head) on it and had one of those earbleeding Veilside exhausts. So I can pretty much say that he almost never drove that car on the road.

If you want to go see one in person. Autopark Honda has a black one with the audio and a/c option sitting in the showroom. I stopped by to see if they had one when my Crossfire was getting some warranty work done on it last week. I think they look much better in person than in the pictures.

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You don't have to guarantee that- it goes without saying. Although, I'd probably leave it on during a rainy autocross and stay dry and slow unless there were contingency money on the line and I had a good shot.



Thanks for giving me an excuse to go to Acura & get more oil filters.

What about this one, Says its solo I spec

http://www.enumerated.org/elda/index.html

click products>safety>click next page button

$180 seems like an awesome deal if they still made them. The page seems outdated.

There is a two page review of this car in the November issue of Sports Car International. The estimated base price was 38k. Ouch.

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Yeah, those are gone. Those are the aforementioned "Elda Engineering" roll bars. There's also a guy over on s2kca.com that claims to have one in development now. He's been saying this for almost exactly one calendar year. I remain skeptical.

The truth is, it's fine by me. This was one of the selling points of getting an S2000 - I *can't* put it on track. (Mostly) kleeps me from putting it into a telephone pole at a high rate of speed. And as long as there aren't any proper roll bars for the car, it keeps me from cutting up the mint-condition interior too. That's okay by me. Classroom instructors don't tend to get a whole lot of available track time anyway - not if, as I still need to, they expect to prepare and go over notes between sessions.

As to the CR - well, I suspect most will be sold with AC and a stereo. And later on, they'll hold their resale value very well, kind of like the Integra Type R does. Otherwise, as it stands right now, I'll put my AS car up against a factory stock CR on an autocross course any day. If they do end up in AS, the front bar still isn't big enough, and given proper shocks I don't think the spring rate changes will matter a lot anyway. 90lb, while significant, doesn't sound like it makes the car a class killer in AS - not to me anyway.

Kind of a shame on the inability to swap stuff between models in stock class. I kind of dig the shift knob...

Still though, a neat sendoff for what has been my favorite Honda for many years now. Even if I think it's a little silly looking...

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