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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:10 pm 
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When I picked up the Z on Sunday in SC I reset the trip/mpg meter for the drive home. On the highway, I95/40, I averaged 29.6mpg @ 74mph in 6th gear.

Car weighs in @ 3150lbs dry. So add another 100lbs for gas. Then about 170lb for driver with sunglasses and a pocket full of change. Roughly 3400lbs. Not too shabby...

6th gear is a beautiful thing...

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for comments on that vehicle.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:22 pm 
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2001 Chevrolet Suburban K2500


Mileage 98,600


Four years and a 100K on the clock? Sound's like it's been used to tow a lot for it's short life. Be prepared for a tranny rebuild.

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Patrice Bousquet wrote:
With the truck, in town 13-14 mpg, 17-18 mpg highway, towing the open trailer on highway 13-14 mpg, towing the enclosed trailer 9-10 mpg ( overdrive turn off ). A bigger engine will probably return a better mpg with the enclosed trailer.


don't bet on it :wink:

not towing:
about 12-13 mpg on the hwy
~10 mpg around town

towing my 24ft enclosed trailer (i'd estimate its about 8000 to 8500 lbs loaded):
about 7.5-8 mpg

granted, i have a lead foot and my trailer is pretty tall but i wouldnt expect to get good gas mileage out of an 8.1L suburban...oh, and i have the 3.73 gearing, i cant imagine it with the 4.10 gearing :shock:

i used 49 gallons of gas to get from raleigh to road atl :shock:

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Graham Jagger wrote:

6th gear is a beautiful thing...

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Indeed it is... 8)


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2000 2.5RS = 25mpg

2005 WRX = 20mpg

2005 FXT = 22mpg

Christine's Civic that she traded in on the FXT = 35mpg

(these are all averages of "normal" driving - not normal for normal people, but normal for ME) :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Looking for comments on that vehicle.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:09 pm 
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Wes Eargle wrote:
Patrice Bousquet wrote:
2001 Chevrolet Suburban K2500


Mileage 98,600


Four years and a 100K on the clock? Sound's like it's been used to tow a lot for it's short life. Be prepared for a tranny rebuild.


Nope - the main benefit of going with a 2500 is the ginormous HD tranny on it. The 4L80-E on my 97 is the same tranny they put on 25,000 lb schoolbuses. Not sure what the tranny is on the newer ones.

Also, my '97 K2500 had 100k miles on it, P-rated tires, the standard 4-pin tow plug, and no brake controller when I bought it. It was a commuter vehicle only (!!).

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~17MPG in the 2.3L 16v benzo. It might also be running a tad rich...hold on, I think I hear my cat dying.

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Patrice - I wouldn't let the high mileage scare you so long as the fluids have been changed regularly. As Whitney said, unless they changed something going to the newer body style, that 4L80 transmission is bulletproof. My 99 C2500 with the 454 had it.

My 454 'burb had a 4.10 rear axle and the 7.4L gas V-8. I got between 11 and 13mpg pretty much regardless...towing, empty, city, highway, whatever. With an enclosed trailer you might get slightly less while towing due to the weight and the aero. Empty you should do a little better than I did because yours would be a 3.73 rear end.

Mine was the generation prior to the one you're looking at, but FWIW mine had a number of electrical problems. Particularly annoying was the windshield wiper controller which failed. I also lost an alternator and a water pump, but at 110K+ miles, so I guess that's really not so bad. I'd make sure the 4WD system works and that the fluids were changed regularly.

You probably saw this coming, but if you're patient you might find a diesel Excursion, which is what you really want :D According to Edmunds, mine is currently worth a little over 18K dealer, 16K private party. A 4WD (mine's a RWD) will probably sell for another 1K or so.

Empty I get 18mpg in town and 20 on the highway. Towing I got about 14 with an open trailer at 75+ mph. Diesel's also starting to get cheaper (relative to gas) now that the winter months are behind us.

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Vincent Keene wrote:
MikeWhitney wrote:
start getting some good MPG, start driving the Miata to autocrosses


FWIW my 1.8L 110whp Miata gets 20MPG...maybe 22 or 23 sometimes if I'm lucky. :shock:

By comparison my 2.4L 150bhp Z-24 gets 35MPG highway...sometimes almosts 40. :o

Edit: I guess "good" gas mileage is a relative term.


My 1.6L Miata gets 30mpg highway/city (mostly highway cycle) no autoX. When I autocross, milage drops to about 24-25mpg. When I tow the trailer with my race tires and Graham's behind gas milage drops to about 15mpg :shock:


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My 2000 Focus with the Ztec motor got 34 MPG on a trip to Myrtle Beach and back. That was averaging 10 - 15 MPH over the limits withthe AC running. My low tech carbonated pushrod 1500 cc Datsun 210 get 28 - 30 MPG in town or on the highway.

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RobLupella wrote:
My 1.6L Miata gets 30mpg highway/city (mostly highway cycle) no autoX. When I autocross, milage drops to about 24-25mpg. When I tow the trailer with my race tires and Graham's behind gas milage drops to about 15mpg :shock:



What's Graham's behind doing on your trailer? Nevermind Capt. Apron. Nevermind.

:lol:

I seem to average 23-27. Always a little disappoint but then again I'm not driving to conserve fuel. There's something about staying below 4k in Miata to maximize fuel economy. I read that. Some where. I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:52 pm 
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MikeWhitney wrote:
Also, my '97 K2500 had 100k miles on it, P-rated tires, the standard 4-pin tow plug, and no brake controller when I bought it. It was a commuter vehicle only (!!).


This is what I don't understand. My Excursion? Same thing. A 2WD diesel Excursion that had never towed anything. The paint was still fresh on the inside of the receiver!

Of course, now that I'm doing arrive and drives on race weekends, I suppose mine is a commuter vehicle now as well... :oops:


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Karl said: Of course, now that I'm doing arrive and drives on race weekends, I suppose mine is a commuter vehicle now as well...


Karl, Like I said earlier, my truck + cash for your Excursion. You will still have something to tow your racecar and cash to buy one instead of borrowing one!!!!!!

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 Post subject: I HATE Fords!!!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:00 am 
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I gotta weigh in on this:

My 2001 Sable has AVERAGED 27.1 over a period of three years and 136,000 miles. That's with probably 400 lbs. of catalogs and sample tools in the trunk. Gets about 28.0 on the highway at 65 mph. 26.7 at 73 mph.

Last three business vehicles have been either Tauruses or Sable, all with the "Vulcan" 3.0 V6.

Total miles on all three vehicles: 729,000 (307,000 + 286,000 +136,000 and counting)
Average Acquisition Cost: $13,500 (each with about 22,000 starting mileage)
Total Engine-related repairs: about $300 (water-pump and idler pulley on my 1995 Taurus).
Average fuel mileage over 729,000 miles: 26.9

And I HATE Fords. But... wonderful business decision. Drive 'em 'til they drop!

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Why Ford put a pushrod V6 into Taurii I'll never understand. The Duratec is a thing of beauty!

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