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ok, so an interested buyer from one of the subaru forums contacted me bout my car. he sounded very very interested. i think hes a younger kid and all into subarus. he's in colorado and i kinda googled him to make sure he was real. he's got 0 posts since May or march of this year. but he is a real person on facebook.

he is ready to buy the car. just so damn excited about it and wants it now.
here are some of the pms/emails from him







I tell him i dont have a problem taking it to chapel hill for a day to get it looked at for him.

then i tell him about deposit payment.





so now he doesnt really care about getting it looked at by the mechanic



so then we talked about a plane ticket and dmv temp tags



Then i told him to send a deposit through paypal and i can hold the car.



then i tell him i dont wanna do money order and stuff. so he finally gets another paypal account and he paypaled me $250 to hold the car.

he's asking for a bill of sale i can just send him for some reason.

i know this is a long post. what do i have to lose? ive already submitted for the funds to be transferred to my bank.

the 2 red flags i had were he said he couldnt get his plane ticket then his paypal and his SS # issues. but he went through with $250.

i told him to bring cash when he comes into town. maybe im just being paranoid. i plan on being at the bank with him with his cash so its legit and not printed on paper towels. haha.

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I'm skeptical. Seems prudent to say that you will hold the car for a stated period of time, or tell him you'll give him first right of refusal if a local buyer surfaces, but he clearly doesn't have the logistics worked out very well. I would kick myself if a local buyer with a valid driver's license wanted the car, but I passed on that buyer for some guy in Colorado who has a high likelihood of not getting his act together. You can refund his Paypal transfer if it doesn't work out.

Good luck.

Edit: +1 on bringing cash and meeting at a bank. The smoother the transaction goes, the better for you.

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Steve Carter
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OMG you are being played from the word go Dude. i wouldn't give this guy my paypal address let alone try to sell him a car.

i sold my Z06 online two years ago. the buyer hesitantly deposited a large sum of money into my bank account. until the money clears you should not even think twice about selling your car to this guy. you have no reasonable reason to believe he has the money let alone a real desire to buy your car.

why do you need a SSN? check on the Colorado DMV requirments for title transfer. nobody flys in from Colorado just to look at a used Scoobie.

tell him you will drop your price by $250 if he wires you the full amount ahead of time. then tell him to get lost once he declines. and also make sure you haven't had your paypal account hacked while you are at it.

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another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............

i]So much chaos in my life

but lets not be

[I do not have a valid photo id![/i]

which is punched WTF does that mean?

i trust u i hope u trust me as well

if this isn't Eastern European i would be amazed............

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BenchWarmer Motorsports

another one of those damn LeMons heads

just another Chump

we are an Autocross Club Dammit............

Run, don't walk run from this deal. Something really STINKS about this. I agree with Steve( he must not be drinking tonite). A really good rule of thumb is when in doubt.......DON'T do it.

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He's like 8 yo and his dad is holding his $5.32 from his allowance.

You should expect the reverse of if you were buying a car out of state. You would provide a Bill of Sale, Title, and any other documentation to him in exchange for a cashier's check, cash money, or some kind of guaranteed funds that cannot be taken back as soon as he has the car and the title. If he wants you to hold it, he should send you some amount of money that will keep you from selling it out from under him so he doesn't buy a plane ticket only to find that the car isn't there anymore.

If the buyer sounds flaky he probably is.

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X2!

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When the words "money order" pop up, the guy is full of shit and just mark him as spam.

Fixed for Craigslist. Although once I varied from this and let a guy pay with a Check. I have him a note that said he would receive the car if check # xxx cleared the bank. It was a check from USAA (And the buyer was an older retired vet so I wasn't that worried about being taken to the cleaners) so I was a bit more at ease than a personal check but I still waited till it completely cleared to my account before giving him a bill of sale and title.

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Agreed, the buyer sounds flaky, but to me that's no reason to flush the whole thing. I'd continue on with him, within reason, until he does something to make me completely sure he's not for real.


I would NOT accept any sort of Money Order or bank transfer from him- no matter how legit it looks. I would just matter-of-factly ask him for his complete contact info, name, street address, phone number(s), etc and see how he responds.


I'm also curious how he plans to drive the car back to CO without a driver's license... but hey, if he's got the $$$, I'd sell him the car. There is but one cure for dumbassishness.

Jeez, you are way more trusting than me, I read this to get to the punch line. No offense to bret, but i would flush the deal right away. If the the flaky guy ends up coming to buy your car you may be stuck with him.

The very first internet deal I did was some flaky guy in Wilmington that turned out to be some weirdo that just like screwing around with transactions. Sell then pull out of deal, wanted to send my money back, I screwed around and lost my money because I waited to long, then I found out he was buying mini parts from the dealer then returning them I guess to get pics to put on Ebay, Ebay booted him.

Good luck but if you come up missing we will know where to tell the cops to start looking!

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thanks for the replies. it really helps.

im not counting on him until he either shows up in RDU with cash. or i get the money ahead of time. ive already been showing it to some locals.

i actually found some of his posts on the forums, he just seems like a young kid whos really really wants a subaru. so no promises with him. cash is cash. sounds like a riceresque kid if you ask me.

im just waiting for me to tell me that his uncle is king of nigeria and will send me $15000 for the car and i can keep 7 of it for my troubles.

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1998 Integra Type R - track fun
1999 Subaru 2.5RS - dirt fun

OK, call me crazy (wouldn't be the first time)...but I just don't see how this guy could screw Kourosh out of anything at this point, especially since he (K) is on high alert for someone to try to pull a fast one on him.

I agree that the potential "buyer" does sound like a young kid who spends too much time gaming and texting, with a serious case of ADD/ADHD whatever you want to call it, but from those emails posted above from him, I just don't see the classic signs of a scammer.

My personal take on it was as stated above, continue humoring the guy and see if he ever actually comes through- I would NOT turn away any other potential buyers or stop showing the car to anyone interested.

Again, no way in hell would I accept any sort of Money order/check/cheque or anything else from this kid other than cold hard US currency in payment for the car, handed to me personally in a public place, like a bank or DMV office.

...and don't forget to take one of these with you too: http://www.staples.com/Dri-Mark-Counterfeit-Money-Detector-Pen/product_450130

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^YES! i was actually looking them up a few mins. ago.

wow, he just texted me saying he's coming in tonight at 9pm. Im having Ray come with me. Going to give him the car and call it a day. I will def. be checking the bills to make sure everything is legit. I dont have a problem leaving him at the sheetz gas station if things dont work out. he's got his plate, ID and cash. took care of it all yesterday from what he told me. we'll see

too bad i cant pack heat at the airport. i guess a pocket knife will do

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1998 Integra Type R - track fun
1999 Subaru 2.5RS - dirt fun