2011 Ford Mustang Boss 302 (street version)

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:55 pm

Donnie Barnes wrote:

Actually, with the Boss engine being different, I wonder if you can even put the supercharger kit on it. *shrug*

I have no intentions of tracking the car other than a possible "track day", so rules are out of the question. And I'm not worried about "ruining" a car for collectors down the road, I'm worried about paying a lot of money extra to get an LSE (there will be a dealer premium, I'm sure) just to depreciate the hell out of it with mods when I could have had the same car, sans graphics, by just buying parts (other than the engine mods, which are likely all taken care of with that supercharger kit).

Make more sense now?

--Donnie

Yes. Pretty much what I figured since you have or are building multiple real race cars. :lol:

I agree with Jason's approach and it appears to be what Ford is really doing with the Mustangs. Sell lots of "regular" versions, hype interest and maintain the core enthusiasts (road course, drag race, etc.) with special versions and also sell lots of aftermarket parts for the guys that will always want to "mod" their car. Plus with the parts they can keep demand up for the used cars as the guys with less bucks buy them in a few years and then upgrade/mod. This helps drive sales of the new models. IMHO of course. :lol:

FYI for non track use and non collector/image use standard GT with supercharger is undoubtedly plenty strong. Like I said, it might be neat to have an automatic with the supercharger if Ford will sell the package/ecu with the auto. Not likely but omg when wanting to accelerate without already being in the right gear :lol:

Might need R tires on the street. :wink:

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:13 pm

Only thing I NEED to know is can I get the LSE splitter and spoiler from Ford. Those are the parts that are hard to do right otherwise.

And I'm not interested if I can't has a manual tranny with the supercharger. Must has manuals.

--Donnie

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:38 pm

Donnie Barnes wrote:

Only thing I NEED to know is can I get the LSE splitter and spoiler from Ford. Those are the parts that are hard to do right otherwise.

And I'm not interested if I can't has a manual tranny with the supercharger. Must has manuals.

--Donnie

I'll keep my eyes open. The corner-carvers thread may be a place to watch if your dealer doesn't know. FYI I think the ex Ford guy I quoted said that all the cars are made to allow the splitter/spoiler to fit so that gives hope that it will also be a Ford Racing Parts item you can buy off the shelf.

I think you meant "can't have AUTO" :-)

I didn't think you wanted an auto. :lol:

I'm sure it will be for the manual. I'm interested in an auto for a daily driver in my upcoming old age. :oops:

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:19 pm

Donnie Barnes wrote:

Only thing I NEED to know is can I get the LSE splitter and spoiler from Ford. Those are the parts that are hard to do right otherwise.

If Ford doesn't sell those separately, might someone clone the design if there is enough demand?

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:24 pm

Richard Casto wrote:

Donnie Barnes wrote:

Only thing I NEED to know is can I get the LSE splitter and spoiler from Ford. Those are the parts that are hard to do right otherwise.

If Ford doesn't sell those separately, might someone clone the design if there is enough demand?

Well sure, but like all things mass produced, the Ford part should be a good bit cheaper than what you'd get in the aftermarket. Should, anyway. We'll see. I'm just happy to see a FUNCTIONAL splitter from a car manufacturer! This is a sign of good things to come, methinks.

--Donnie

Marty Howard · **Posted:** Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:02 pm

2012 Mustang Boss 302 price from Edmunds.

$37,950

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/2012/index.html

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:45 pm

just as a side note here, I was getting my 6 qts of oil for an oil change and as part of casual conversation, the parts guy asked me what car I had. Said an 07 mustang. He stated that the new 5.0 engine take 9 qts of synthetic. Makes you ask why so much? With that much oil, why do you need a radiator? You can all most go air cooled again....

JamesShort · **Posted:** Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:32 pm

RodneyWright wrote:

just as a side note here, I was getting my 6 qts of oil for an oil change and as part of casual conversation, the parts guy asked me what car I had. Said an 07 mustang. He stated that the new 5.0 engine take 9 qts of synthetic. Makes you ask why so much? With that much oil, why do you need a radiator? You can all most go air cooled again....

I think the Ferrari Enzo takes 15 qts at something absurd like $25/qt

. I think the dealer oil change runs close to a grand.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:53 pm

JamesShort wrote:

RodneyWright wrote:

just as a side note here, I was getting my 6 qts of oil for an oil change and as part of casual conversation, the parts guy asked me what car I had. Said an 07 mustang. He stated that the new 5.0 engine take 9 qts of synthetic. Makes you ask why so much? With that much oil, why do you need a radiator? You can all most go air cooled again....

I think the Ferrari Enzo takes 15 qts at something absurd like $25/qt

. I think the dealer oil change runs close to a grand.

Yeah, but that's probably because it's dry sumped and thus you have a big oil tank you're carrying around, too.

--Donnie

JamesShort · **Posted:** Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:36 pm

Donnie Barnes wrote:

JamesShort wrote:

RodneyWright wrote:

just as a side note here, I was getting my 6 qts of oil for an oil change and as part of casual conversation, the parts guy asked me what car I had. Said an 07 mustang. He stated that the new 5.0 engine take 9 qts of synthetic. Makes you ask why so much? With that much oil, why do you need a radiator? You can all most go air cooled again....

I think the Ferrari Enzo takes 15 qts at something absurd like $25/qt

. I think the dealer oil change runs close to a grand.

Yeah, but that's probably because it's dry sumped and thus you have a big oil tank you're carrying around, too.

--Donnie

Yep. I guess the v12 in the Enzo A) needs that much oil for additional cooling of the peaky, 48 valve engine it wields, B) can pull enough lateral Gs on street tires that oil starvation *may* occur C) is so damn low that a oil pan is unrealistic.

A Mustang with 2.25 gallons of oil seems a bit overboard to me

.

Jason Mauldin · **Posted:** Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:14 pm

That extra oil capacity will be nice to have for track events. Oil changes will be a PITA though.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:12 pm

The 5.0 specs say 8 qts (with filter???) but also a 10K recommended change interval. So in addtion to whatever additional capacity the engine needs under all conditions it apparently can take advantage of more oil to dilute the contaminants. I currently change 5 or 6 qts (depending on which Mustang) at 5K so no real difference for me.

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

FYI for Donnie - info on how dealer allocations will (in theory) work:

http://www.boss302forum.com/index.php?/ ... llocation/

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:17 pm

I think I'm over it. It's just Yet Another Mustang(tm) that will just be topped in a year by the same thing.

I'm likely gonna go shopping soon for an Audi RS4. Four doors, 0-60 in 4.3, and tame enough the wife won't mind driving it occasionally.

--Donnie

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