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Maybe Porsche should point out, that MINI has bigger problems that they should be working on....

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010061 ... /100619876

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Heck, I would do it. And I don't even consider myself a "Porsche-douche". ;)


it's a sliding scale...

it goes from partial douche just-a-regular-guy-that-owns-a-porsche on one side, to sparco-around-your-waste-shirt-off-$500-sunglasses-i'm-better-than-you full on mega douche.


Right now I just can't afford the Sparco suit and expensive sunglasses. But I can dream!

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
Maybe Porsche should point out, that MINI has bigger problems that they should be working on....

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010061 ... /100619876


That would be so funny. I think its dangerous to point out other people's problems (as you never know when you will be on the other side), but I could see a campaign saying something like...

"We raced last week and according to JD Powers quality survey, we came in first, while you were nearly last. Better luck next time Mini!"

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
Maybe Porsche should point out, that MINI has bigger problems that they should be working on....

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2010061 ... /100619876


Don't look at that, there's this shiny race going on over here....

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so for the first time in over 50 years of production Porsche finally has a reliable car and they gloat? OK, maybe Porsche should gloat. but let's not forget the old adage that brought them to this point.

if you want to drive a Porsche everyday, you should probably own two of them. :P

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This discussion is dumb. Please add this to the list.

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so for the first time in over 50 years of production Porsche finally has a reliable car and they gloat? OK, maybe Porsche should gloat. but let's not forget the old adage that brought them to this point.

if you want to drive a Porsche everyday, you should probably own two of them. :P

Actually I have never heard that before and I don't believe that is accurate. You can point out issues with any manufacture, but regardless of how people may feel about Porsche or Porsche owners, Porsche has been building reliable cars for a number of years. And while I don't think the JD Powers survey is that big of a deal, Porsche has been at the top or near the top for a number of years.

Now if you are talking about cost per mile, then that is a different story. For example the 928/944 have things that fall under the "scheduled maintenance" category such as timing belts, etc. that need to be changed more frequently than other cars and when the work is done, it is expensive. If you are looking at best bang for the buck from a reliability point of view, you are going to have to look at Toyota, Honda, etc.

If you go back through the entire history, the problems that stand out in my mind (no doubt I am probably forgetting something big) with the entire Porsche line (from a reliability point of view) are...

* Early 1960's 356 with the Hirth roller bearing cranks were a bit too bleeding edge for most people.

* Early/mid 1970 911 2.7L engine is known to have issues with broken cylinder studs and other issues.

* The M96 engine used in the 996 (911) and 986 (Boxster) in the late 1990's have a design flaw with the intermediate shaft seal and there are other issues with that engine.

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A challenger appears!

http://jalopnik.com/5567323/hyundai-sho ... ni-to-race


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Thats it. The gloves are off. I am mad as hell and am not going to take it anymore. I don't care who shows up, Hyundai, Mini, Porsche... I challenge them all! Here is the deal, they pay for the track time, cater lunch and I will bring my Honda Civic. My track preference is the Nurburgring Nordschleife (they will need to fly me and the car there), but I am willing to race elsewhere. Tracks such as Suzuka, Spa Francorchamps, etc. are all acceptable to me. I am willing to settle on something like Road Atlanta if you can't swing one of the more famous tracks. ;)

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Richard, I can coach you on the Nurburgring, no problem. Tomorrow I'm going to the Porsche Museum.

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Richard, I can coach you on the Nurburgring, no problem. Tomorrow I'm going to the Porsche Museum.


(Psss... Between you and me, I don't expect to win. I just want a free lunch and some free track time)

Seriously, driving the northern loop is on my "bucket list".

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Richard Casto wrote:
Patrice Bousquet wrote:
Richard, I can coach you on the Nurburgring, no problem. Tomorrow I'm going to the Porsche Museum.


(Psss... Between you and me, I don't expect to win. I just want a free lunch and some free track time)

Seriously, driving the northern loop is on my "bucket list".


that is a big bucket Richard. I'd be happy with seeing Munich sans the bus tour. 8)

what is a pissing contest without a fair nimber of short di***d wanna-bees trying to hit the urinal? das Hundai ist formidable if nothing else. :twisted:

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Porsche won by 2 seconds. The video is up on the facebook page.


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so since i don't have facebook access..........

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http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php ... 177&ref=mf

You might be able to see that without logging in.

This was still a win for Mini. It got a ton of people talking about their brand. I'd still like to see the Genesis spank em too :). (When did Hyundai decide they wanted to be a real car company?)


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