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oh lordy lordy, don't we have a discussion fix'in to light up here now.

damn Republicans. :twisted:

yes i know, that statement has nothing to do with this discussion. but i do have a standard to maintain.

sadly Rodney, given the current state of the job market i would think it wise to not turn a blind eye to any organization that is hiring. working for peanuts is still working. working to ones true potential generally gets one promoted, particularly when starting at the bottom.

the good news Rodney, is that third bedroom could easily be converted back to its original state of use. :lol:

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One of the Raleigh based car dealers will soon have a job opening for someone with an accounting/finance background. Definitely not a college grad level position but will probably pay $25-30K a year plus benefits.

PM me if interested .

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25-30k? How do you live on that? That's roughly 1800 a month after taxes. I appreciate the info on the job, but that is not really a decent salary as far as I'm concerned.


That's about what my first job out of college paid me. This was in New Jersey as well. It's all about getting your foot in the door.


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steve remchak wrote:
working to ones true potential generally gets one promoted, particularly when starting at the bottom.


Im still working at the bottom. and I have asked for different possitions several times. My answer has been that I am too valuable to be replaced in my current possition.

There for, I disagree (and yet somehow agree) with you.


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To put it in perspective, my brother turned down two job offers in the 25-35k range thinking that he could do better....1.5 years later he accepted a position with minimal benefits for 40k/year.......so 1 year from now he will have made 40k in the 2.5 years since graduating = $16k/year. I made $22k as a PhD student.

Or he could have been earning at a 30k/year rate for the last 1.5 years and averaged at about 34k/year for a 2.5 year timeframe.

There is no job opening to take for granted in this job market.

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JasonWatts wrote:
steve remchak wrote:
working to ones true potential generally gets one promoted, particularly when starting at the bottom.


Im still working at the bottom. and I have asked for different possitions several times. My answer has been that I am too valuable to be replaced in my current possition.

There for, I disagree (and yet somehow agree) with you.


which is why you need to leverage that position by seeking other offers. then your current employer can decide how valuable you are to them in reality.

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Steve, we need an intervention here. You my friend are a Republican. It's ok Steve, many people live a meaningful and wonderful life while being a Republican. You just confuse our hatred of George W. Bush as being Democrat. You also don't have to like Sarah Palin if you are a Republican, now, not admitting she is a hot woman of our age is just more of your denial that you are a Republican. You might want to find a local RA (Republican Anonymous) meeting to go to. I will be glad to be your sponsor.

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Steve, we need an intervention here. You my friend are a Republican. It's ok Steve, many people live a meaningful and wonderful life while being a Republican. You just confuse our hatred of George W. Bush as being Democrat. You also don't have to like Sarah Palin if you are a Republican, now, not admitting she is a hot woman of our age is just more of your denial that you are a Republican. You might want to find a local RA (Republican Anonymous) meeting to go to. I will be glad to be your sponsor.


never!!!!!! up against the wall all you redneck muthaf****** :twisted:

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Frank Catena wrote:
One of the Raleigh based car dealers will soon have a job opening for someone with an accounting/finance background. Definitely not a college grad level position but will probably pay $25-30K a year plus benefits.

PM me if interested .

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Isn't that about what entry level teachers are paid in NC?

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Frank Catena wrote:
One of the Raleigh based car dealers will soon have a job opening for someone with an accounting/finance background. Definitely not a college grad level position but will probably pay $25-30K a year plus benefits.

PM me if interested .

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Isn't that about what entry level teachers are paid in NC?


they don't count Dick. of course neither can our kids, but that is another matter all together. :P

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yep, I have been teaching for 11 years now and am finally starting to make "decent" money :roll:

My cousin has been teaching half as long in PA and makes more than I do now lol

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yep, I have been teaching for 11 years now and am finally starting to make "decent" money :roll:

My cousin has been teaching half as long in PA and makes more than I do now lol


PA has a very good contract for its teachers i have heard. top 5 in the country maybe?

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RodneyWright wrote:
Frank Catena wrote:
One of the Raleigh based car dealers will soon have a job opening for someone with an accounting/finance background. Definitely not a college grad level position but will probably pay $25-30K a year plus benefits.

PM me if interested .

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25-30k? How do you live on that? That's roughly 1800 a month after taxes. I appreciate the info on the job, but that is not really a decent salary as far as I'm concerned.


He did preface that with the fact it wasn't college graduate level position. Millions of people live on less than that in this country. I lived on far less than that my first 10 years of adulthood, the first year I cracked $30k I thought I was rich as that's all that any of my parents ever made.

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He did preface that with the fact it wasn't college graduate level position. Millions of people live on less than that in this country. I lived on far less than that my first 10 years of adulthood, the first year I cracked $30k I thought I was rich as that's all that any of my parents ever made.


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That's close to my salary when I was in residency...here's my recipe:

(1) rent--preferably share a multi-BR apartment
(2) live in a low cost of living area
(3) coupons!
(4) ditch the stuff you don't need...$100/mo cell phone plan, $125/mo cable plan, etc
(5) Maximize enjoyment from the free stuff like hiking, running, hanging out withfriends over the more expensive stuff like concerts, etc
(6) Listen to Dave Ramsey and Clark Howard
(7) If you work 100 hours a week like I did there's little idle time to waste money, so that was nice...well, sorta. Actaully it sucked, but I digress.

Income tax rates are practically zero in that income bracket (in some cases the Earned Income Credit may make you a refund from the fed even if you paid zero income taxes...), so there's that.


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Frank Catena wrote:
One of the Raleigh based car dealers will soon have a job opening for someone with an accounting/finance background. Definitely not a college grad level position but will probably pay $25-30K a year plus benefits.

PM me if interested .

Frank


25-30k? How do you live on that? That's roughly 1800 a month after taxes. I appreciate the info on the job, but that is not really a decent salary as far as I'm concerned.

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Steven Carter wrote:
That's close to my salary when I was in residency...here's my recipe:

(1) rent--preferably share a multi-BR apartment
(2) live in a low cost of living area
(3) coupons!
(4) ditch the stuff you don't need...$100/mo cell phone plan, $125/mo cable plan, etc
(5) Maximize enjoyment from the free stuff like hiking, running, hanging out withfriends over the more expensive stuff like concerts, etc
(6) Listen to Dave Ramsey and Clark Howard
(7) If you work 100 hours a week like I did there's little idle time to waste money, so that was nice...well, sorta. Actaully it sucked, but I digress.

Income tax rates are practically zero in that income bracket (in some cases the Earned Income Credit may make you a refund from the fed even if you paid zero income taxes...), so there's that.


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Frank Catena wrote:
One of the Raleigh based car dealers will soon have a job opening for someone with an accounting/finance background. Definitely not a college grad level position but will probably pay $25-30K a year plus benefits.

PM me if interested .

Frank


25-30k? How do you live on that? That's roughly 1800 a month after taxes. I appreciate the info on the job, but that is not really a decent salary as far as I'm concerned.



That how my parents did it, of course there weren't cell phones, hbo, vacations were going to see family and it was thought to be middle class to live in a 1200sf home. Americans have bought (no pun intended) into the life style that advertisers tell us we should have (starts with Macdonalds-you deserve a break today). I need to stop or I'll start preaching my Libertian/Live Simply Gospel. I'm going to go stir my compost heap before I take my race car to VIR. Yes I am a dichotomy.

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