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DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:37 pm

steve remchak wrote:

isn't a Yankee moving South automatically granted the right to complain? :lol:

Only if they move to C(concentrated)A(area for)R(relocated)Y(yankees).

Dick (who moved here from California and doesn't live in Cary.)

Graham Jagger · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:53 am **Posts:** 1718

steve remchak wrote:

isn't a Yankee moving South automatically granted the right to complain? :lol:

Nope. We don't care how ya'll did it up North. Go home Yankee!!!! :wink:

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:27 pm

Graham Jagger wrote:

steve remchak wrote:

isn't a Yankee moving South automatically granted the right to complain? :lol:

Nope. We don't care how ya'll did it up North. Go home Yankee!!!! :wink:

Just make sure you leave your money here . . .

Jason Tower · **Joined:** Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:31 pm **Posts:** 1173

DickRasmussen wrote:

Only if they move to C(concentrated)A(area for)R(relocated)Y(yankees).

Dick (who moved here from California and doesn't live in Cary.)

i saw this incredibly awesome kick ass movie once, and learned that if you're from california you're not a yankee. you're not really anything.

steve remchak · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:59 am

Jason Tower wrote:

DickRasmussen wrote:

Only if they move to C(concentrated)A(area for)R(relocated)Y(yankees).

Dick (who moved here from California and doesn't live in Cary.)

i saw this incredibly awesome kick ass movie once, and learned that if you're from california you're not a yankee. you're not really anything.

"stop the car Cole, stop the car" :lol:

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:21 am

Jason Tower wrote:

DickRasmussen wrote:

Only if they move to C(concentrated)A(area for)R(relocated)Y(yankees).

Dick (who moved here from California and doesn't live in Cary.)

i saw this incredibly awesome kick ass movie once, and learned that if you're from california you're not a yankee. you're not really anything.

Probably true :oops:

I've lived significant amounts of time in CA, NY, NJ, MA, WA, Vietnam, and RTP. I think I qualify for "not really anything . . . except certainly not "Southern or heaven forbid, Texan" :roll:

Of course, since I fully intend to live HERE for about another 25 years give or take (i.e. until death), I certainly like it here!!!

Chris Brown · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:26 am

HOAs suck. they've morphed from a simple means to pool money for town home communities to repair/improve roofs, streets, entrances, pool, etc. into a mechanism to fit everyone into a neat little conformity box.

i know people that walk around their neighborhood looking for the stray bicycle left out in the yard, or the basketball goal left too close to the curbing...just so they can write it down on their little pad and report them anonymously to the HOA. it's ridiculous IMO.

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:58 am

I think Stephen told me he could get in trouble with his HOA if he leaves his garage door open. Geez, who has time to care about this crap? Probably the same folks glued to their TV watching 'Extra' to hear about Tiger's latest GF. :roll:

Graham Jagger · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:53 am **Posts:** 1718

Chris Brown wrote:

HOAs suck. they've morphed from a simple means to pool money for town home communities to repair/improve roofs, streets, entrances, pool, etc. into a mechanism to fit everyone into a neat little conformity box.

i know people that walk around their neighborhood looking for the stray bicycle left out in the yard, or the basketball goal left too close to the curbing...just so they can write it down on their little pad and report them anonymously to the HOA. it's ridiculous IMO.

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky,
Little boxes, little boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:37 pm

With HOA: Neighbors DEMAND you conform to their minimum standards.
No HOA: You HOPE neighbors conform to your minimum standards.

Lots of potential stress either way since, as usual in life, other people can piss us off and/or we can piss them off.

Chris Brown · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:54 pm

DickRasmussen wrote:

With HOA: Neighbors DEMAND you conform to their minimum standards.
No HOA: You HOPE neighbors conform to your minimum standards.

Lots of potential stress either way since, as usual in life, other people can piss us off and/or we can piss them off.

maybe i have low standards then...if one of my neighbors was nearing those standards, they'd pretty much have to be doing something illegal and then i'd be calling the police, not my HOA. i could really care less what color they paint their mailbox or front door.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:57 pm

I wasn't even thinking about that type of HOA control. Ugh. (says the guy with clear coated natural cedar siding plus RV and Trailer.)

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:46 pm

I am going to buck the trend here and say that most people who complain about HOAs are people who agree to the HOA rules and/or convenience and restrictions when they purchase their property, but never read them or fail to understand them if they do read them. Now that is not to say that you can't have someone with too much time on their hands who is an HOA officer and is making life difficult for people. My experience is that these people last about a term or less before they piss of enough people and are kicked out. The best way to make it work is to actually participate in the HOA so it is you and not someone else who is making the decisions.

With all of that said HOAs run communities are not for everyone and are not meant to work for everyone.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:38 pm

What Richard said. Plus before you buy a house not only should you read the covenants but you should also go ask a few of your potential neighbors how things are run and what to expect. Be honest and ask questions relevant to how YOU plan to live.

The place I live now had covenants when we bought it, but they were about to expire and I was almost certain they wouldn't be renewed. So I took a gamble that I was right and I was. Poof, covenants are gone. Usually they spell out their own provision for renewal with some sort of reasonable percentage vote required to maintain them. But if they ever lapse, well, that's that. There's no way to renew...you'd simply be starting from scratch. That requires 100% approval from those affected. Above about two neighbors, that ain't ever going to happen. So I'm covenant free.

--Donnie

SimonWright · **Posted:** Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:15 pm

OK, a timely topic.

Kieran and his girlfriend have bought a house and will be moving out of their apartment soon. We have been fortunate to be able to keep the trailer there but after the move it'll need a new home. I'd keep it at my place but those of you who have seen my house know there's no room (cul-de-sac end house and on steep slope).

So are there any kind souls in N. Raleigh (preferably NW Raleigh) that will let me park my open trailer?

Thanks.

Merry Christmas.

Simon

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