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 Post subject: Re: 2015 VIR-N Wrap-up
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:33 pm 
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I thought I was awesome when Vincent's Mustang could not get away...
I would say he was just messing with you, but he's a Stig; there's no volume knob. As you mentioned in class, driving in Lemons (or Chump) conditions you to a whole bunch of bad "skills". I've had instructors for years taking a session or two to break me out of that mindset -- I actually do have a line, and it's ALL MINE, no one should be attempting to pass until I signal them to. Brian Wright was prodding me all weekend to stop giving up speed and track position to assist passing, a lemons habit because it's unsafe/unwise to assume what the overtaking car is going to do. That "abundance of caution" is rarely necessary at the advanced levels. I'll put together a video of several of my best point-bys (given and taken.)

On that note, I would rate the weekend as "Good". Not great, but that's all car, not THSCC. The tires we had on it Saturday were "well used" (they've had 12+hrs of VIR this month, before this weekend) It's a fun game guessing how much traction I'll have at any moment. Sunday, on better tires, it developed an odd brake fade -- not good when your instructor is pushing to brake later, harder, and carry more speed. (T1 & T14 for me, T14 for Roger.) It was an awesome learning weekend trying various new things and learning how to sense "the limits".

As for Rich's driving, I hear it involves a voodoo witch doctor and a chicken. :-) Left foot brake to induce rear slip angle. How many times have I sat through that class?!? I'm at a point where I could probably do it on command, but it would be conscious effort, whereas Rich has enough experience to do it by reflex. "We" do something similar. (By we, I mean Robert and Roger McDaniels -- I rarely do it on purpose; if I misjudge entry speed, as Ron would say, the car does it.) The Duff civic is about the same weight/power as Rich's focus.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 VIR-N Wrap-up
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:34 pm 
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I have had Ron ask me why I was taking a particularly strange line at a HPDE at VIR before, and after thinking about it I replied that the line I took best defended me from overtaking racers. I have subsequently gotten better at switching between race mode and HPDE mode.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 VIR-N Wrap-up
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I thought I was awesome when Vincent's Mustang could not get away...
I would say he was just messing with you, but he's a Stig; there's no volume knob.


I'm trying to decide if that is a backhanded compliment or not.

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It's a compliment. You remind me of something that I read in a Ross Bentley book, basically if you want to drive slow, then why are you at a race track?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 VIR-N Wrap-up
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A new personal best lap - 1:48:53

https://youtu.be/EIaU9gk7S80

What a bad ass 6! :mrgreen:

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Cash Davidson wrote:
A new personal best lap - 1:48:53

https://youtu.be/EIaU9gk7S80

What a bad ass 6! :mrgreen:


Nice. Once you pull in your skirt through Stevie Wonder you'll cut another second off that easy.

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Vincent Keene wrote:
Cash Davidson wrote:
A new personal best lap - 1:48:53

https://youtu.be/EIaU9gk7S80

What a bad ass 6! :mrgreen:


Nice. Once you pull in your skirt through Stevie Wonder you'll cut another second off that easy.


Yeah, as I watch I'm thinking: I've done T3 better; I've done T7 better; I've done T10-T14 better; I've done T16-T17a better. Putting it all together for a nice clean lap is maddening! But Fun!

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 VIR-N Wrap-up
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Here is my new PB session. Average lap time was much lower than my previous best and best lap was way lower. I'm still way off the pace in hogpen and T3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWNCl9cU55g


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JamesMilko wrote:
Here is my new PB session. Average lap time was much lower than my previous best and best lap was way lower. I'm still way off the pace in hogpen and T3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWNCl9cU55g


Very well done James!

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Here's a couple of my laps from Saturday as I was trying to learn the whole data/video thing.

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Apparently I am part of the "do as I say, not as I do" crowd. Bugger.


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When I got back to Greenville Sunday night I was passed by the White Mustang (I think #13) with blue stipes passed me, Who is that?

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There were a few of them. There was one in Red group that was fairly stock and there was one in Blue that was all tarted up and had a wing and FORD RACING plastered on it.


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Andrew Jonell wrote:
There were a few of them. There was one in Red group that was fairly stock and there was one in Blue that was all tarted up and had a wing and FORD RACING plastered on it.


The one in Blue group was no ordinary Mustang. It was a FR500S. For those that don't know, It is a factory track car sold thru the Ford Racing catalog as a part number. It has no VIN and cannot be licensed for road use. It comes gutted, caged, etc. Yes, I was drooling all over it. :thumbsup:

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Cash Davidson wrote:
The one in Blue group was no ordinary Mustang. It was a FR500S. For those that don't know, It is a factory track car sold thru the Ford Racing catalog as a part number. It has no VIN and cannot be licensed for road use. It comes gutted, caged, etc. Yes, I was drooling all over it. :thumbsup:


I hear a Bullitt makes a decent track car as well. Wonder where you could find one of those?

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