2014-2016 Chump rules are out

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:34 pm

http://www.chumpcar.com/downloads/2014- ... -rules.pdf

How bad is everyone getting screwed?

A lot of this is humorous though, 1994 Miata is $400 and a 1997 is $750. I want to say the only meaningful difference is the 1997 is ODB-II and has about 5 more HP.

The gnashing of teeth on the Chump forums is pretty good though. http://forum.chumpcar.com/index.php?/to ... bcr-posted

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:27 am

John Condren is an idiot [/thread]

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:31 am

The rules are pretty byzantine, and seem similar to NASA with their valuing of mods. Obviously I am uninvolved, but as an ignorant outsider I thought this was a crapcan racing league yet I see the ability to run a Mk IV Supra and a Corvette? I know their values are over $500 but why are those cars even considered viable for that kind of series? Just curious.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:01 am

I want my $450 SVO Mustang and $475 LS1 Camaro please

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:03 am

Ryan Holton wrote:

I want my $450 SVO Mustang and $475 LS1 Camaro please

I'm not greedy, I'll take just the LS-1 engine for $475 please.

Jason Tower · **Joined:** Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:31 pm **Posts:** 1173

i had drinks with chisek this weekend and can tell you that the regional directors are NOT happy with the new rules. he is well aware that there are a number of loopholes and potential ringers as they exist today, expect changes in the coming weeks. he also asked me (and anyone else that wants) to send him a list of the more egregious errors that you feel need to be corrected in the rules, he's a smart guy but acknowledges that he doesn't know every make/model and depends on participants to help with this task. this means mpv numbers as well as anything in the rules.

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:55 am

Jason Tower wrote:

expect changes in the coming weeks.

I'm shocked!

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Vincent Keene wrote:

Ryan Holton wrote:

I want my $450 SVO Mustang and $475 LS1 Camaro please

I'm not greedy, I'll take just the LS-1 engine for $475 please.

On a side note, if anyone does spot a good cheap LS-1 for sale, let me know. I'm kinda sorta in the market for one.

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:04 pm

Looks like Bernie is set now.

Andrew Jonell · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:43 pm **Posts:** 1350

No more penalty laps; however, something is going to have to be done about his dash bar...

I think the MPV table is a good idea, but it needs some fine tuning. I'm starting to have some ideas about a 1.8L Miata...

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:55 pm

JamesMilko wrote:

Looks like Bernie is set now.

Unfortunately she's blown up again and I haven't had the time or place to rebuild it again. And it still needs a dash bar....Many people have died because of the lack of one, so I've been told by Chump inspection

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Did someone say dash bar?

Zach Hill · **Posted:** Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:25 am

MikeWhitney wrote:

Mike, please tell me this is your sim racing rig...

Vincent Keene · **Posted:** Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:33 pm

I was bored so I just read through the new rules. Reads like a novel it's so damn long. John Condren has taken something simple and made it complicated. He must be German. :stick:

If they were to actually follow that rulebook to the letter it would take two whole days just to tech the cars for one event. :roll:

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:26 pm

No you see, tech is just there to enforce safety and gross violations. It's your responsibility to tell them about illegal stuff so they can ignore it during impound.

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