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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:20 am 
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interesting comparison.....


Agreed. Another reason why I will buy a '06-'07 low mile CTS-V for the "family" car. These things are beasts. ;) - AB


I realize the AMG 'cedes are not "pretty" but the CTS-V is fugly.

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Funny they mention "price/performance" ratios...the rate of depreciation we've seen in the last year on the E60 M5 is nothing short of phenomenal, and something similar has happened with Mercs, Porsches, et al. A 2008 M5 with an MSRP of ~$95,000 can be had with low mileage (say 10k miles) for about $35-40,000 off that list price. Dealers can't give away high end cars in this market. One example is to go to eBay, 911s, sort on model year and just look at the shear quantity of 911s on the market from 2009 through 2007 models. Dealers are even taking big discounts off ordered 2009 cars at the moment. January was a horrendous month for German automakers in their home market and world market.

When you can wait 6-7 months, buy a car with 10k miles and save the price of a new 135i in the process, it's hard to imagine anyone of any means simply wanting to plunk down cash for a new one.

If you've never driven an E60 M5 with SMGIII, take it off your wish list imo. It is stellar on the track or when wringing it out to the max, but everyday driving is a pia. Reliability has been horrible too. More E60 M5s have been towed back to dealers than any other car BMWNA has ever imported as a percent of that model sold (my opinion, but try to come up with any other model that beat this one in that regard). :shock: Perhaps one more reason that 2006 models can be had in the high 30k range now as end of warranty periods approach or have passed for them.

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MarcusMcRae wrote:

I realize the AMG 'cedes are not "pretty" but the CTS-V is fugly.


Nah. It's a style you either love or hate. Considering the '06-'07 CTS-V (6spd manual only) does 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, it's ugly you can get used to. 30k-40k mile cars are going for $23-$28k when they sold new for $51k. The corvette LS2 and Tremec T-56 tranny rule. Call me a fanboi :) - AB

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Following up on above, here's recent Manheim auction data on 2006 M5s: http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/1499320-post236.html

Holding used inventory of high dollar cars is like holding DRAM inventory in the old days it seems.

By the way, notice how so many of them were leased. BMWNA took a massive financial loss on leasing these 2006 M5s as they had residuals that were WAY off. They have corrected their residual outlook numerous times over the past 3 years on M5s and M6s, but it has still been too high. If the lease had a decent rate, it was a big bonus to just turn the thing in at the end for most people (financially anyway). I understand some are making great deals to buy their leased cars substantially under the residual value these days as dealers don't want these things.

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