Intermediate school?

Carlton Whitehead · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:50 pm

I'm interested in going to the intermediate school, but not sure if I will be able to. My sticky tires are bald, and I need to get a new set and gently break them in before the points autocross next weekend. If I have 300 miles on them by Wednesday, I'll register for the intermediate school. Otherwise I'll probably need to spend that Saturday still breaking them in. We'll see.

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:12 pm

Carlton Whitehead wrote:

My sticky tires are bald, and I need to get a new set and gently break them in before the points autocross next weekend. If I have 300 miles on them by Wednesday, I'll register for the intermediate school.

What kind of stickies do you have? We'll use Kumhos brand-new, with the stickers still on 'em... maybe other brands are more sensitive to break-in? I know people talk about the mold-release compound and heat-cycling and stuff, but frankly I've never noticed a real difference.

ChristopherLin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:44 pm **Posts:** 125

what happens if i'm an instructor but already prepaid for the event? will it carry over to the next event? or do i need to email for a refund?

Carlton Whitehead · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:18 pm

Carl Fisher wrote:

Carlton Whitehead wrote:

My sticky tires are bald, and I need to get a new set and gently break them in before the points autocross next weekend. If I have 300 miles on them by Wednesday, I'll register for the intermediate school.

What kind of stickies do you have? We'll use Kumhos brand-new, with the stickers still on 'em... maybe other brands are more sensitive to break-in? I know people talk about the mold-release compound and heat-cycling and stuff, but frankly I've never noticed a real difference.

Kumho Ecsta MXs. So I guess I will be going then?

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:49 pm

Carlton Whitehead wrote:

Kumho Ecsta MXs. So I guess I will be going then?

Aren't those street tires? I thought you ran in DSP and would be on competition tires. Street tires might be different... :whoknows:

Carlton Whitehead · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:59 pm

They are street tires. I don't run in TIR because DSP doesn't give me much PAX, and I'm just not competitive in TIR because of it. That, and my car is slow. And I think I could be a better driver. At least I've had some close battles in DSP open class.

Hopefully I'll get something out of the intermediate school.

Chuck Frank · **Posted:** Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:08 pm

You won't damage your new tires IMHO. Heat and squirming is the enemy of tires and AX doesn't generate enough heat for a long enough time to cause damage. Do a few late night laps around the nearest cloverleaf in both directions to scrub off the mold release and open up the rubber and you'll be fine.

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

You'll probably chunk them a little bit, but no amount of "breaking in" will solve that, unless you're talking about significantly wearing the tread depth down.

Carlton Whitehead · **Posted:** Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:29 pm

Wes Eargle wrote:

Just "talked" with Dustin. $35 is the cost of the Saturday school for students, (snip)

I just preregistered for this. The Paypal link invites me to pay $20. Should I bother with this or just bring cash?

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:06 pm

Carlton Whitehead wrote:

I just preregistered for this. The Paypal link invites me to pay $20. Should I bother with this or just bring cash?

I guess I can fix the Paypal price while I'm waiting for the event info...

edit: it's now $35 for everyone (members and non-members). VPs and registrars, y'all may want to check if anyone's Paypalled at the $20 rate...

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Carl Fisher wrote:

Carlton Whitehead wrote:

I just preregistered for this. The Paypal link invites me to pay $20. Should I bother with this or just bring cash?

I guess I can fix the Paypal price while I'm waiting for the event info...

The event GM is on vacation ...

In brief, the event info is that there will be a Intermediate School on Saturday that will be very unstructured with a focus on seat time. Think of a test-and-tune with an instructor sitting next to you. Season pass holders *do not* get into this event free. Entry is limited to drivers that have a minimum of five events under their belt.

Sunday's event will be a foil to the last event that is currently titled Turning Japanese. Details to follow as Dustin and Kevin find a way to return emails. Last I heard, KA was working on dashplaque art that needs to be sent to VK last week.

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

Just got back from Rally WV. Wanted to add that I'll be doing a course walk class early early early in the morning (like starting within 30 minutes after the gate opens) on the 9th for those who actually want to be fast. Those who don't want to be fast can skip it and just get seat time.

Thanks to Wes for doing the dash plaque.

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Kevin Allen wrote:

Just got back from Rally WV. Wanted to add that I'll be doing a course walk class early early early in the morning (like starting within 30 minutes after the gate opens) on the 9th for those who actually want to be fast. Those who don't want to be fast can skip it and just get seat time.

Thanks to Wes for doing the dash plaque.

d000000000000000000000d :lol:

Shit has been solved. Come on out Saturday AM, the course will be fun, fast, and will require you to look far ahead to do it right. You'll get more runs than you have tires to do them well. That's the plan, enjoy!

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

When does the gate open? I'm in.

Chuck Frank · **Posted:** Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:06 pm

Kevin,
if you want to split the group for the course walk class I can help.

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