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 Post subject: Evolution School: Lessons Learned
PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:29 am 
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All I can say is Wow!

What an amazing weekend - We took the Evo Extreme School and had Tim Aro & Jinx Jordan instructing us. They were really great - their differences in teaching styles really helped me learn the bits and pieces from each of their techniques that I want to incorporate into my driving. A big thanks to both of them for their patience, encouragement and great teaching skills to help me maximize my potential in driving this weekend.

I also want to thank them for teaching me that riding is a great thing even when you are on the edge!

By the end of the two days, there wasn't a student out there that wasn't driving great - it was so fun to watch and encourage each other as we learned.

So here is my list of lessons learned that I wrote down last night with a fried brain. Please add to the list because I know I've forgotton some!

1. Slither is a great thing!
2. If you can't unwind the wheel, your foot is too heavy on the throttle!
3. Talk constantly to yourself, tell yourself where you are looking ahead, and look ahead, look ahead, look ahead.
4. When you enter a 90 degree turn, go in wider than you would expect so it opens you up for a better entry to the next element.
5. Shift the weight to the front of the car for entry into a slalom with a light lift or break so you can more easily get behind the cones.
6. Visualize the course - close your eyes and walk through the course in your mind. This was really helpful to me.
7. There is a fine line between finesse and loose - I want to be right in the middle of these.
8. Brake early!
9. Tunnel vision in crisis moments tend to keep us focused on the hood of the car, if we continue to look ahead we can work through these moments quicker (thanks Chuck for articulating this so well!)
10. Think about the above list prior to events so I am refocused and ready for competition.
11. Riding is good!
12. When you finish your run, close your eyes and debrief the run in your head so you can decide where you can pick up more time, and where you need to slow down.
13. Take as many EVO schools as you can! They are awesome!

Also - a HUGE thanks to Stephen Westerfield for bringing the school to us again this year. It was wonderful.

Mo

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 Post subject: Re: Evolution School: Lessons Learned
PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:38 am 
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Mo Monroe wrote:
11. Riding is good!


Mo finally gave up control! CONGRATS!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:16 am 
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This is a good recap. I’ll add to Mo’s list. So many of these things we’ve learned in Phase I and II, but they just have to be restated over and over.

I’ll add more to the list when I wake up…well, wake up more, but to start:

1. Negative thoughts are a self fulfilling prophecy
2. If the way you’re seeing an element isn’t working for you, find another way to see it. Example: by making a 2 cone offset that was beating me up, a 3 cone slalom, (with a real or imaginary cone), the entry changed and the problem went away.
3. Be hungry for the next element-always be thinking ahead to the next element and what you have to do to get there properly.
4. Loading the front early on and looking through the entire slalom will make you more smooth.
5. In like a lamb, out like a Lion is neat!
6. Working the course and watching others drive is a great learning tool.
7. The course can be walked in one’s mind as well as on the ground.
8. Keep your focus when riding with other drivers so that you become “the driver” and not just a passenger in the car.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:45 pm 
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Every time I've done an evolution school, I go in sort of skeptical - I've been at this driving thing a long time now, after all - and I always come away glad I did it.

Today was a "back to school" day for me, taking my first phase one in probably ten years. As I'm sure folks have noticed, not only do my codrivers regularly beat me in my own car, I quite regularly throw away screaming fast raw times by coning them away. So I thought maybe a refresher on the fundamentals would be good.

And it was - it confirmed all the things I suspected I was doing, most of which came down to not looking far enough ahead. GH and Eric also raised a good point that all too often I forget - you have to *continually* look ahead. The car is moving, so "looking ahead" in one spot means you're driving three feet off your front bumper later on, unless you keep your focus moving forward. Having GH ride with me and tell me "look at blah over there" in real time was really helpful, and when he called me on it later, I corrected myself, and instantly picked up half a second.

About the only downside I can think of is that I clipped the back right of my car with the tire trailer pulling out of the driveway this morning - so it's off to the paintless dent repair guy Monday morning. This business of being a waxer is getting expensive.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:37 pm 
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My lesson learned is that nylon doesn't grip as well as rubber. Corded three out of four Azenis today, none due to flatspots.

Actually, I learned today not just "looking ahead" but what you're supposed to see while you're looking ahead. I can't believe that I've been doing it wrong all these years. Danville is going to be fun in a couple of weeks. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:47 pm 
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All great comments above. The two day Extreme School was a great experience yet again, and I'll be glad to take it again next year, but the Challenge School sounds very interesting.

The looking ahead skill is filled with SO many variables that unless you continually practice it, it is very easy to get rusty/lazy. By variables I'm referring to the creation, at each event, in your plan, of where are the key points to be looking ahead to at any given point on course in addition to "how" you look ahead (i.e. general target point with scanning, moving that target point continually and properly, etc). Having Tim Aro be voraciously "hungry" for each new element was inspiring.

In any event, proper eye/vision technique is perhaps the single most important skill in an autocross once you are performing at a high level since you only have four or so runs to "master" a given course, and then it will all be different next time -- totally unlike a track where you can drive it hundreds of times and mentally rehearse it thousands of times, and it will be substantially identical the next time you're there.

I had two main goals for the Extreme school in addition to many minor goals. One was to be able to bring back what I have learned to use in every autox event from now on. I hope to accomplish that by having "Virtual Tim" riding shotgun with me. Tim Aro and I did many runs where on the first lap all he did was call vision points and how he would look at the course, and on the second lap he would go silent. It was great training since on that second lap I could still hear his voice in my head helping me through the course. My goal now is to continue creating these vision points like I always have, but now have VirtualTim running the show once on course. Mental tricks like these we can use on ourselves are sometimes profoundly helpful. I've used something similar for 27 years ever since my good friend Ray Korman gave me some outstanding instruction at Mid-Ohio -- part of Ray has been with me since. :)

My second main goal was to be able to use Tim as a mentor from an instructor standpoint so that I can better help those I instruct in the future. The hardest part about instructing is translating that feeling and imagery you have in your mind to your student -- communicating that synesthesia in a mode that a student can grasp is profoundly difficult to do well.

I worked the course when Mike Miller, Stephen, Mo and Bernie were running, and I have to say that watching all of them progress rapidly and REALLY smoke that course was a highlight of the school. :shock: When one of them would finish a clean run, with no overdriving the sweepers, no cones down and having blasted through the slalom and offsets right on the cones, it sure was a great thing to watch. I can't wait to see them use what they have learned in future events!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:00 pm 
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I learned not to let the instructor chew gum during my runs lest we have to clean up said gum from the floorboard before returning the car to Donnie.

I learned that taking a good rally-x line through the course (or through the grass NEXT to the course) can be just as fun as taking the auto-x line.

I learned that the STi is one hella-fun car to drive when you are pushing the limits.

Oh yea, and what all those other people said above. It was an outstanding 2 days of rip-roaring driving fun. As Chuck mentioned, watching EVERYONE push their cars to the limit was really a joy to watch.

Special congrats to Mo for finding the rev limiter!!! :P


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 Post subject: Thanks for all the hard work
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:08 pm 
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I just wanted to thank Stephen/Judy, Dustin and everyone for putting on a fun and educational day yesterday.
Also, thanks to Don for letting me drive the Cobra after blowing up the Fiat for the second year. The Danville curse.
Thanks, Chuck


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Yea I want to Thank everbody out there this weekend Eric , Shawn, Jinx and Rob. I learned alot and know that all I have to do now is apply it and keep my list handy so that I don't forget anything. I broke the Miata Sunday so I got to try out the BMW and also tried to break it but that's another story. I doult we will have the Miata fixed in two weeks so Bernie it looks like I'm coming after you in the Beemer. I guess we will see who learned the most and if we are appling it. Again Thanks to Stephen and everybody for a fun and learning weekend.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:12 pm 
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Special congratulations go to the Phase 1 Challenge Competition winners:

Saturday - Judy "Queen of Trash Talking" Westerfield (Honda Fit) took the victory over runners-up Malia Frederickson (M3) and Alan Hensley (Miata). They all did some great driving. Just a note that Malia had the fastest time in the afternoon session, much to the dismay of the Z06 driver who was last year's South Carolina State Champion in SS. She ended up with the second quickest time of the day. Terrence Hulihan in his black STi was insanely quick in the last session of the day to take FTD.

On Sunday, Don Ingerslew (Cobra) defended the honor of THSCC by taking the Challenge victory over a hot shoe from Virginia (Al) in his WRX. Chris Cline from Triad had the quickest run in his STX BMW, followed closely by Karl Shultz.

FWIW, I had a great time working everyone on both days. It was so much fun watching all the Tarheel folks (and guests) doing some fantastic driving on what was a really tough & tight Phase 1 course. Plus, the gritty surface thew in an additional challenge. Also, these were the two best schools ever for folks showing up on time for worker assignments and run groups, which freed up enough time for the extra runs. Thanks for all the help!

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Gary Hill wrote:
Bernie it looks like I'm coming after you in the Beemer. I guess we will see who learned the most and if we are appling it.

Bring it on beemer boy, or is that beemer old fart??? I forget, what am I driving? when am I driving???Apply what? Huh?????? :?:


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Eric Peterson wrote:
On Sunday, Don Ingerslew (Cobra) defended the honor of THSCC by taking the Challenge victory over a hot shoe from Virginia (Al) in his WRX. Chris Cline from Triad had the quickest run in his STX BMW, followed closely by Karl Shultz.


Yeah, I definitely should have put the Hoosiers on...

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Karl, how'd you do with the cones? I easily hit more cones Sunday than I hit from 2006-2008, combined. :shock: Corded 3 year old Azenis ftl?

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Karl, how'd you do with the cones? I easily hit more cones Sunday than I hit from 2006-2008, combined. :shock: Corded 3 year old Azenis ftl?


Thanks for asking. I think it'll get better - my vision was so *not* ahead, it's hard to imagine that things won't improve. The immediate half second improvement when GH called me out on my vision was pretty telling. Besides all that, I stayed pretty clean all day. I think I hit two cones on the day, which, for me, is pretty good - I often do that on a single competition run.

Running the street tires was a happy accident. It demonstrated to me that I tend to get really cocky in this car - it's very good, but it's not a superhero.

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Has anyone received their data files from the Extreme School yet?

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