Mazda vs SCCA?

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

You people need a new hobby.

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:04 am

Chuck Frank wrote:

As much as it gripes you Donnie, GM selling even 1 2006 GXP ZOK thru a dealer to a race shop that paid for it is by definition "available to the public", independent race shops are members of the public as long as ownership is passed to them.

Chuck, you're just absolutely positively wrong. "Available to the public" means anyone could have gone and got one somehow. That was never the case. There was no car available to a normal individual (not even one). You had to have a special connection to GM, PERIOD. I can't believe you can't at least admit that GM got some special treatment here. Rose colored glasses and all that, I guess. *sigh*

The car was never advertised until after it was impossible to get one unless you already had that special connection. It's really pretty simple.

Just like Mazdaspeed, GMPP created the beast and went behind the scenes to get the paperwork done to make the thing happen. Some of that was even pretty fake, at least for a time, because GM thought their feet were going to be held to the "a customer could have actually ordered an '07" thing, though obviously they were not. They did it all much later than any Mazda conspiracy you think you can cook up (Mazda did all their work out in the open with the help of the SCCA tech department several MONTHS earlier).

It's really sad that you can't even admit this much. It's pretty obvious to the rest of the world, but I suppose it's those of us with no dog in the fight that can see it. *shrug*

--Donnie

Kevin Allen · **Joined:** Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 pm **Posts:** 3479

Reminded me of this, so I had to re-post it:

Quote:

aaron - the sky is blue

jim - no it's not, it's navy blue

aaron - yea, like i said, it's blue

scott - wait, wait, wait..."IS" it blue or does it just appear blue to you?

aaron - there is scientific proof that it is blue

jim - no there isn't

aaron - yes there is..check www.theskyisblue.com

jim - i did and those figures can't be correct

kevin - i think it's blue, (like my subaru that's gonna kick all ya'lls buts)

tom - true-dat

aaron - let's get back to the topic, the sky is blue and i'll put $$ on it

kevin - i'm out (i can't afford it now that i have 2 subies that are gonna kick all ya'lls buts)

tom - i'm in...wait, what am i in on???? oh yea, the sky is blue, bring it on

scott - how can you say those figures aren't correct...they were measured with a 4000k Color Spectrometer-o-scope.

jim - the 4000k Color Spectrometer-o-scope sucks

scott - wait, back on 1/2/2002 at 3:45am, 2/5/2002 at 5:34pm, 5/18/2003 at 7:34am, 9/8/2003 at 9:12pm, 12/5/2003 at 1:23am and 2/2/2004 at 6:45am that you liked the 4000k Color Spectrometer-o-scope

jim - no i didn't

scott - yes you did

jim - no i didn't

scott - yes you did

meant in fun guys, please don't kick me in the shins on sunday

Thanks to Chris Brown for one of the funniest things I've seen here. Now come up with something like that for this thread!

Les Davis · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:04 pm **Posts:** 2059

Kevin Allen wrote:

You people need a new hobby.

X2!! I'm proud to say I have read less than 5% of this thread.

jimpastorius · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:11 pm

Les Davis wrote:

Kevin Allen wrote:

You people need a new hobby.

X2!! I'm proud to say I have read less than 5% of this thread.

The combination of Charles, Donnie and Aaron in a thread is like watching Jaws 3. You just keep hitting your head thinking it is going to get better, it is going to get better, it is going to get better.....then you realize you just wasted 2 hours of your life :cry:

Or driving past an accident, you don't want to look but you always do.

Off to the garage to continue the reassembly of a lying, cheating, no good GM small block

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:40 pm

I've been pretty damn good about staying out of this thing and a lot of things with Chuck. My one post was adding to what Graham wrote.

In other words, I'm behaving myself :crazy:

- AB

Donnie Barnes · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:53 pm

This is the same group that went 14 pages for the "Team Challenge" thread. I don't feel sorry for any of you still reading it. :twisted:

--Donnie

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:42 pm

It's clear to me there is only one logical conclusion to this thread: The Crossfire slowed down DS. :idea2:

Jim

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:12 pm

JamesFeinberg wrote:

It's clear to me there is only one logical conclusion to this thread: The Crossfire slowed down DS. :idea2:

Jim

Both you and Craig Wilcox. I just want him to imply one more time on SCCAForums that DS talent at Nationals was weak. :roll:

I think he might change his mind when he's having the operation to remove my boot from his rectum :twisted:

- AB

Richard Casto · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:26 pm

I think it is more like late night TV. You know you should goto bed, but you keep surfing the channels and watching garbage you wouldn't normally watch.

Anyhow, this is nowhere as interesting as how fast the new Skyline GT-R will do a lap of the Nurburgring.

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:03 pm

Aaron Buckley wrote:

JamesFeinberg wrote:

It's clear to me there is only one logical conclusion to this thread: The Crossfire slowed down DS. :idea2:

Jim

Both you and Craig Wilcox. I just want him to imply one more time on SCCAForums that DS talent at Nationals was weak. :roll:

I have no idea who that is but I agree with him 113%! Maybe 114% but I'm trying to remain noncommittal.

Sensitive much?

Seriously though, there aren't any weak stock classes at Nationals and I'm looking forward to joining the fray next year.

Has the thread been sufficiently derailed yet?

Jim

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

JamesFeinberg wrote:

Has the thread been sufficiently derailed yet?

Jim

Just in case. . .

I really like PAX, I think it provides a fair and level playing field for all drivers. :lol:

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Aaron Buckley wrote:

JamesFeinberg wrote:

It's clear to me there is only one logical conclusion to this thread: The Crossfire slowed down DS. :idea2:

Jim

Both you and Craig Wilcox. I just want him to imply one more time on SCCAForums that DS talent at Nationals was weak. :roll:

I think he might change his mind when he's having the operation to remove my boot from his rectum :twisted:

- AB

Have you invoked the almighty Richard Simmons yet? Or are you building up to that?

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:49 pm

Personally, I don't think Aaron has the depth of talent required to kick Craig Wilcox in the rear.

But I've been wrong before...

Jim

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:03 pm

December Fastrack wrote:

Showroom Stock
Item 1. Effective 1/1/08, change section 9.1.7.E.28 by deleting the section in its entirety:

Vehicles previously classified with performance kits may continue to compete with these kits. No new performance kits will be classified.

So, did this just open up the use of "trunk kits" in Showroom Stock?? Did this rule just make the MS-R and the Z0K legal??

Edit: The GXP Z0K would be legal would be legal next year anyway as it is a real package that you can get form the dealership.

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