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JamesFeinberg
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It could veRy well be something else, though. It Really depends on which way the wind is blowing. Next year could be a gReat year to be a piRate but I haven't decided yet. It might depend on what kind of booty Hanukkah HaRRy brings me. :wink:

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More comes down from the mountain:

Rick Ruth wrote:
I suppose I could also point out that at this year's Nationals, the top ten G Stock cars were scored under 95 seconds. There were only five D Stock cars able to do that. Heck, even the tenth place G Stock car (non-Mini) was only beaten by four D Stock cars. These classes ran the same courses, on the same days, one heat apart. The next fastest Integra R behind the winner (3rd in class) got beat by six Mini's.

The just released 2008 factors are based on the Mini S not moving to D Stock, I don't think, or know for sure if, the SEB is going to move it. Most everything I can see shows that the Mini S is generally faster than the vast majority of front running D Stock cars.

There also haven't been a ton of the new 2007 Mini's out there, yet. That car is clearly faster than the previous versions. Ask anyone who's driven both.

H's & K's,
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The thread for anybody that wants to read for themselves.

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JamesFeinberg wrote:
Graham Jagger wrote:
Oh gee thanks! I was thinking of trying the Celica in 08 for fun. Maybe I'll just run TIR class...


I was kidding Graham. I haven't even decided on a car yet and I'll be in 'X' anyway. Besides, you'll have to contend with Spratte if you decide to run TIR. :)

Jim


Maybe you should get, dare I say it.... a Mini. Settle this Top Gun thing with David once and for all. Honestly it doesn't matter to me. The Celica idea is just for cheap entertainment. Since I really don't AX much anymore I'm going to see if I can run NOV next year.

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Graham Jagger
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Gwen Baake wrote:
Oh, Graham, please come to HS. Either I'll have good competition........... or you'll get beat by a girl! :woo:


You won't have good competition. I can barely get a RWD car around an AX course. Converting to FWD is going to be painful. FWD SUX. I feel bad for anyone working the course...

As for getting beaten by a girl. BTDT. Every year since joining the club. You girls aren't very nice! Sure you're polite in the pit area... while sharpening your nails... :wink:

This whole Ladies class is nothing but a scam and a conspiracy. Far surpassing the recent SCCA vs Mazda vs GM horror show. If I was President of the SCAA and/or THSCC there would be no more LADies class... and we would have a bus awning powered by a generator :lol:

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There also haven't been a ton of the new 2007 Mini's out there, yet. That car is clearly faster than the previous versions. Ask anyone who's driven both.
The thread for anybody that wants to read for themselves.



Hmm. . . I know a couple people who wouldn't agree with that. Unless you're talking about drag racing. :)

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David Spratte wrote:
Rick Ruth wrote:
There also haven't been a ton of the new 2007 Mini's out there, yet. That car is clearly faster than the previous versions. Ask anyone who's driven both.



Hmm. . . I know a couple people who wouldn't agree with that. Unless you're talking about drag racing. :)


Sandbaggers. The lot of you! :D

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Table I picked up in another forum:

    Class 2007 PAX 2008 PAX Diff Pct Diff
    SS 0.848 0.852 0.004 0.472%
    AS 0.838 0.842 0.004 0.477%
    BS 0.828 0.832 0.004 0.483%
    CS 0.822 0.831 0.009 1.095%
    DS 0.804 0.812 0.008 0.995%
    ES 0.812 0.817 0.005 0.616%
    FS 0.809 0.821 0.012 1.483%
    GS 0.803 0.815 0.012 1.494%
    HS 0.789 0.792 0.003 0.380%
    ASP 0.858 0.862 0.004 0.466%
    BSP 0.853 0.858 0.005 0.586%
    CSP 0.845 0.856 0.011 1.302%
    DSP 0.836 0.843 0.007 0.837%
    ESP 0.834 0.841 0.007 0.839%
    FSP 0.823 0.833 0.010 1.215%
    STS 0.805 0.816 0.011 1.366%
    STS2 0.806 0.818 0.012 1.489%
    STX 0.808 0.820 0.012 1.485%
    STU 0.821 0.830 0.009 1.096%
    SM 0.856 0.860 0.004 0.467%
    SM2 0.862 0.867 0.005 0.580%
    XP 0.874 0.882 0.008 0.915%
    BP 0.866 0.866 0.000 0.000%
    CP 0.864 0.864 0.000 0.000%
    DP 0.860 0.863 0.003 0.349%
    EP 0.863 0.861 -0.002 -0.232%
    FP 0.868 0.872 0.004 0.461%
    GP 0.847 0.847 0.000 0.000%
    AM 1.000 1.000 0.000 0.000%
    BM 0.944 0.937 -0.007 -0.742%
    CM 0.909 0.904 -0.005 -0.550%
    DM 0.889 0.890 0.001 0.112%
    EM 0.879 0.887 0.008 0.910%
    FM 0.890 0.895 0.005 0.562%
    FSAE 0.949 0.946 -0.003 -0.316%
    F125 0.946 0.948 0.002 0.211%
    FJ1/FJA 0.790 0.855 0.065 8.228%
    FJ2/FJB 0.800 0.828 0.028 3.500%
    FJ3/FJC 0.833 0.770 -0.063 -7.563%
    FJ4 0.851 N/A N/A

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JamesFeinberg wrote:
David Spratte wrote:
Rick Ruth wrote:
There also haven't been a ton of the new 2007 Mini's out there, yet. That car is clearly faster than the previous versions. Ask anyone who's driven both.



Hmm. . . I know a couple people who wouldn't agree with that. Unless you're talking about drag racing. :)


Sandbaggers. The lot of you! :D

Jim


Yup. I sandbag by being down 40 wheel hp, weigh 400 lbs more and run on the facking poosey 13" Hoosiers. :wink:

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