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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:32 pm 
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If you drive slow. I'm out. Last that I heard, Karl is out as well. Enjoy the AS gimme. :wink:


Yeah, I think I'm out. I'd have to run it on the street tires. While seat time is always good, I don't want to hit the reset button on the progress I've made first part of the season driving with Eric on the A6s. I was also on the road all day today, and don't anticipate wanting to get up real early tomorrow morning.

Also looks like there's only three AS drivers preregistered, so the competition isn't quite up to what I've come to be used to. That was the final dealbreaker.

I'm glad to hear that Donna's doing better, Chuck. You guys go have fun and kill everybody in AS.

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Wes Eargle wrote:
Chuck Frank wrote:
Danville isn't hard on tires.


If you drive slow. I'm out. Last that I heard, Karl is out as well. Enjoy the AS gimme. :wink:


Don't really like gimmes, would have like the competition in prep for the tour next weekend. Hope it's a good course. Gotta go now.

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So is anyone going to report back on how folks did?

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Wow, looks like Les stacks up a little better against Eric than I do. :oops:

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Course map and stats

I haven't looked at anything from our last Sanford event but I should have some time this evening to post a quick summary with video if anybody is interested.

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Course map and stats

I haven't looked at anything from our last Sanford event but I should have some time this evening to post a quick summary with video if anybody is interested.

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Yup. I'd be interested.

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Karl Shultz wrote:
Wow, looks like Les stacks up a little better against Eric than I do. :oops:


I am sure Eric will post eventually but I spoke with Eric after his runs and he said that there was so much more left in the Vette and it was amazing at how much more potential the car had left. He did seem to enjoy his runs though and the course was very fun. I also think I have finally figured out how to drive the Crossfire to almost its full potential, even if Jim and GH slaughtered me.

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Having the opportunity to drive a well setup Z06 on a good course and *trying* to drive 10/10ths was extremely educational & fun. Les was kind enough to let me co-drive with him. Plus, the bonus was that he had new shocks and Kumho 710s on the car. He felt that he'd been struggling a bit in the car, but the shock and tire change seemed to solve most of those problems immediately. Les drove really well and taught me a bunch about how to drive the Z06.

Having driven several Corvettes at schools, on smaller courses, and at 80% - 90% was definitely helpful, but it still did not completely prepare me for the first several runs in Les' Z06. It was still a lot to digest because things happen so bloody fast. Literally having about 4 times the torque of what I'm use to driving took some adjusting...I think I'm still adjusting 24 hours later :-) To me, driving most A Stock cars (e.g., Boxster, Solstice, STi, S2000) is a logical step up from a Miata, clearly more challenging but pretty manageable. If those cars are one (1) step up in challenge the Z06 was about 5 levels. Out of all the really good autox cars I've driven, the Z06 is definitely the most difficult to drive to it's potential. Tim Aro said it best whe we were at a testing day in Peru back about 5 years ago and he went for a ride with multi-time National Champ Erik Strelniks in his Z06. When he got out of the car he said, "it's like a completely different sport" when you're in one of those cars.

I struggled most with 1) throttle modulation (big surpise) in that it took my right foot time to smooth out my inputs, not so much over aggression, just smoothness and 2) not taking full advantage of the amazing grip of the car through the offests, especially in the taxiway where Les killed me.

As Keith said, there was definitely a lot of poential left in the car, especially since Les & I were about 1.7 seconds behind G.H. on pax. Nonetheless, I was pretty happy with my effort and very pleased to almost run even with Les. Anyway, it was a blast and I had a great time.

The most interesting part of the day was when we went to get gas after Les' runs. I was running in the very next group so we didn't have much time to get back before 2nd group started. After we fill up, the Vette will not start and is totally dead. Fortunately, Mo Monroe was there and drove back to get jumper cables. She jumped us off and saved the day, Les then drove next door to Advance Auto to buy a new battery. The sign said "fast & free" battery installation. Les said we were going to put them to the test. No one was in there that could install a battery, so they gave him a cart with tools. In the process of putting the battery in one of the terminal connectors fell down into the engine compartment, so Les went in and bought some more. So, the sign was right, it's "fast and free" if you do it yourself :-) Amazingly, we got back in the middle of the second round of runs. The Triad folks were cool and let me make my runs up.

I'll be back in the Miata at Laurinburg, so hopefully I'll be able to put some of the lessons to use that Karl and Les have taught me over the past month in their high performance cars.

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Since we were right down the road at VIR Graham, Kevin, and I had the thought to make it a real car day and do the track event and the AX, but then remembered we would have to work so we didn't go and just stuck to the track day. :wink:


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Jim,

Thanks for the stats. Wish it was possible to overlap our runs. I'd like to see the difference in the lines, braking, etc. I'd learn a lot. My best run had my average speed @38.0 to your 39.9. My high speed (through the 1st box, past the single cone, through the second box and past the 2 cones before braking) was 57.6. Is that where you topped out @ 61.4? It all resulted in a 5 second difference in our runs. I've got to work on attacking the course harder! :!:

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Since we were right down the road at VIR Graham, Kevin, and I had the thought to make it a real car day and do the track event and the AX, but then remembered we would have to work so we didn't go and just stuck to the track day. :wink:


I think it had more to do with a timer going at the AX :wink: Maybe if you just showed up to do fun runs?

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RobLupella wrote:
Since we were right down the road at VIR Graham, Kevin, and I had the thought to make it a real car day and do the track event and the AX, but then remembered we would have to work so we didn't go and just stuck to the track day. :wink:


I thought Graham was busy melting his rear bumper off :shock:

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Gwen Baake wrote:
Wish it was possible to overlap our runs. I'd like to see the difference in the lines, braking, etc. I'd learn a lot.


There might be. Can you send me some of your run files? I'd like to evaluate the Trackmate software anyway and I might be able to write a quickie conversion utility for importing data between the systems. It would be easy to do with the MaxQ products since they publish their specs but I haven't looked at what kind of support Trackmate offers yet.

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My high speed (through the 1st box, past the single cone, through the second box and past the 2 cones before braking) was 57.6. Is that where you topped out @ 61.4?


Yea, I was hitting the rev limiter in the middle of the 2nd box and riding it to my braking zone. I probably could have eeked out another 1/10'th by shifting to 3rd but it would have taken a perfect downshift back to 2nd to keep from losing time on the other end. Considering the braking zone I used wasn't exactly straight, my chances of pulling that off were pretty slim.

Here is the video if you missed it in the other thread.

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That course sure looked like it had some "interesting" visual elements in it...

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