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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:56 pm 
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I'm looking forward to it. I'd be surprised if it turns in as well as Eric's 2000 MR2 Spyder. That thing cut in like a knife. It was a great car to learn in, but nothing has since turned in even remotely as well :cry: ... it should be fun ;) - AB


Yeah, and you sucked in the Spyder too. Not to mention you done blowed it up once or twice!


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Yeah, and you sucked in the Spyder too. Not to mention you done blowed it up once or twice!


Did you mention that to Rick?


Yes, it blew up when I was driving it. Not my fault that Toyota had a lousy pre-cat design ;)

Suck is a relative term, considering it was my first year on the National Tour ;) - AB

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Aaron Buckley wrote:
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Yeah, and you sucked in the Spyder too. Not to mention you done blowed it up once or twice!


Did you mention that to Rick?


Yes, it blew up when I was driving it. Not my fault that Toyota had a lousy pre-cat design ;)

Suck is a relative term, considering it was my first year on the National Tour ;) - AB


You blew up a car in your first year? Twice?

HOLY COW!

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Jason Mauldin wrote:
You blew up a car in your first year? Twice?

HOLY COW!


No, it only blew up once. :) - AB

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The forecast continues to change. Now Sunday is 'AM light rain' and Saturday is just 'occasional showers' - AB

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Did you mention that to Rick?


Not exactly.


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James Feinberg wrote:
That's too bad. I like to think I learn something every time I get behind the wheel regardless of conditions or car preparation. You never know when you'll be faced with changing circumstances during an event and, personally, I'd like to have as broad a knowledge base as possible to fall back on.


True. Good point. :thumbsup: 99.9% of the time that's true for me whether I'm competing, instructing, walking the course, comparing runs or whatever.

When Karl and I talked about this weekend, we agreed that we were both really stoked about the competition/ opportunity for all of us to run against each other. What could be better than to push each other as far as we could and make our club's AS drivers the best ever.

Running in the rain in general doesn't bother me. I've learned over the years that it can be interesting and gosh knows those of us that run nationals or pros...have BTDT many times. One person that I credit with helping me get there is Sammy Strano. He taught me to appreciate competing in the rain on rain tires and take advantage of the fact that I was comfortable, when so many aren't. Aaron probably remembers my first pro solo win at DC, in the rain driving the Celica. The last slalom was on a strong downhill run. I think you actually complimented me on my runs that day Aaron. :mrgreen:

And push comes to shove (smack talk included) we'll be there Sat. or Sun. anyway. :twisted:

I do feel that we could certainly learn more about driving this car in the rain on the proper tires or in the dry on the ones we have...it's just a fact. Going out on the street tires in the wet doesn't appeal to me for that reason and that reason only. The word "fear" has no place in the sport IMHO, because it has no value.

I've personally never been "afraid" of any other competitor. (OK so I know some enjoy just throwing the words around to see if they can shake someone loose. That's a separate issue altogether and not what I'm referring to here.) If I felt that way, I wouldn't have bought an AS car and entered such a competive class. I can't wait until Nationals. :clap:

I know that I have no control over how anyone performs except myself. My driving, mindset and preparation is up to me; just like everyone else's is up to them. The main reason that I bring it up is that I think a lot of people, especially those just getting started in autocross worry too much about what everyone else is doing and not enough about their own situation/enjoyment/accomplishment. They may be reading some of the smack talk and finding themselves worrying for no good reason. :?

So when people are just having fun saying...are you afraid, gonna melt, or whatever...it's cool. Just sit back and watch unless it gets too personal. I guess it's the smack or trash talk that inspires or makes it more competitive for lots of folks. Guess I just haven't participated in enough competitive sports to "get it", and I suspect that there are others in the club in the same boat. So for those out there like me...let the others have fun and inspire or intimidate each other if they can. We can always sit back and watch and create our own inspirations...

Gawd, I love this sport! That's all the inspiration that I need. :D

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Aaron Buckley wrote:
The forecast continues to change. Now Sunday is 'AM light rain' and Saturday is just 'occasional showers' - AB


Dood, what weather report are you looking at? I want to see it. I keep checking the national weather service online...is it that different? :?:

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Did you mention that to Rick?


Not exactly.




Hey, YOU said yes. :lol:

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I don't mind driving in the rain.

That certainly doesn't mean I prefer it.

Whitney told me something at my first HPDE that (as simple as it sounds) really made sense: "The car doesn't handle any differently in the rain. You just get to the limit that much sooner."

Okay. That's a paraphrase, but the idea stuck with me. If the car is an understeeting pig, it'll still be an understeering pig. If it's tail happy it's still just as tailhappy. Driving in the wet just demands better driving and probably will be a good event to reinforce the stuff from the Evo school. (i.e. open the wheel and look ahead dumb@ss!11!!).

Plus, I see it as conserving tires. :P

Working in the rain is the suck. Everything happens the same but just wet. In an effort to send the rain away, I'll pack full rain gear.

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Donna Frank wrote:
Dood, what weather report are you looking at? I want to see it. I keep checking the national weather service online...is it that different? :?:


Click Here - AB

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All things being equal among cars (tires), I feel like that I'm a better driver than most in the rain. I seem to be able to find the limit and keep it there, without going over too often.

Thus, I like the rain. - AB

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I race just because I enjoy racing each race. I enjoy them more when I feel like I drove well, and that ratchets up a little depending on how "big" the event is. The weird thing is I really don't bother worrying about Nationals. To me it's just another big race. Sure, I try to have new tires ready and the car might get a little more attention, but I do little to "prep" for Nationals other than that. I don't worry about what surface this event or that one is on. Sure, it would be silly to run on high grip concrete all year and expect to do well at Topeka, but I think the bigger the mix of things you can do all year, the better. That includes running some higher grip stuff, running in the rain, running on dirty dog poo, etc. Okay, maybe not *actual* dog poo, but you get the idea.

Maybe my strategy will pay off one day at Nationals. So far I've had pretty mediocre finishes and haven't felt like I've driven anywhere near my best. I can't imagine anything I did during the season caused that, though. I've got some ideas on what did cause it, but it's minor stuff I need to work on at the event itself. Maybe I'll get it, maybe I won't. But I enjoy doing it each time, and will likely continue to whether I do well at that one event or not.

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Donnie Barnes wrote:
I can't imagine anything I did during the season caused that, though. I've got some ideas on what did cause it, ...


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I actually LIKE running in the rain, we did two Evo challenge schools in the rain. But after putting the ding in the rocker panel on street tires in the dry I really don't want to drive on them in the wet. If we already had rain tires or the event really meant something I'd be there in a heartbeat. I can otherwise put the time to much better use working on our truck.
We will be up at 4:30 AM Sat and Sun checking the weather before making a final decision.

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