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Well, I just happened to be looking at the results on NCAC and found something interesting. I didn't understand it to be working this way, but apparently the results for THSCC are not the same of the Saturday results and I am confused about this. So this event was to be run differently in that if you happened to be beaten by a non THSCC member, that this didn't affect the points that were awarded to you?

I didn't attend for a few reasons, but one was with the hope that someone was going to beat Rodney in STS on Saturday (they did ) and that would mean less points for him and maybe a good event for me to miss (if I was going to miss one).

I see the note on the results page and Stephen's post above, but that is kind of after the fact as far as how points would be awarded? Am I missing something here? Why treat this event any differently than a regular THSCC event as far as points is concerned in that non-THSCC driver can win regardless of how many events they have attended? This is somewhat a moot point as most likely Rodney is going to beat me this year, but if it was scored using the normal method (what I was expecting) I think still have a mathematical chance over the next two events.

IMHO, whatever we do, we need to be consistent on how we score events over a single season. Maybe too late for this year, but an item to think about for next year.

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Richard Casto
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It's okay, Richard, you're beatable in the last event of the season too.

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Yeah, it probably will work out that way.

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Richard Casto
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Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.

First I just want to say...this event was an exception to the norm. I don't think you will find any other inconsistencies this season or any other for that matter in the way THSCC scores events.

Second I would like to say, if I have anything to say about it, we would never do it this way again, and I am talking about including our event as one day of the NCAC (or any two day situation like this). The results were a pain in the butt and because it did require doing results/scoring differently, it wasn't the best plan.

Third, we wanted our folks that normally run X and Ladies class to step into the open classes, but not penalize the folks that are usually in open since this was kind of a forced situation due to the different classing for NCAC. We wanted to try and make the results look as close to a normal event as possible, which is why we also removed folks that weren't THSCC members or hadn't run in at least two THSCC events this year, under the assumption that they wouldn't have come to our event last month had it not been for the NCAC. Again...it was too much of a pain in the butt, so if it is up to me, we wouldn't do this again.

And last....



.....you should never miss a THSCC event....you snooze, you lose!

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Stephen Westerfield
2009 Infiniti M35 | 2007 Honda Fit Sport | 2005 Ford Mustang GT |2000 GMC Sierra |1992 Acura Integra LS | Super Westerfield Bros Acura Integra

Amen...bitching and whining about scoring and not even showing up for the event...points should be deducted!

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

This is water under the bridge at this point. While a bit peeved about this last night, I brought it up only so that it can be a consideration for next year. Gladly I think Stephen understands the spirit of why I brought this up. He may or may not agree with me, but I believe he understands what I am trying to say. That is really what I was after.

I also knew someone was going to give me grief about this (thanks Jim!). So regarding "bitching, whining, not showing up", blah, blah.. Since we drop two events (I assume so that people don't have to actually attend every single event), factoring in "which" events might be your worst IS part of the local season points game. So Jim your comments might be tongue in cheek, but if not, IMHO you are off the mark. Now if we didn’t drop any events, then you would be correct. Even with the dropping of events, ideally “yes”, I should show up at every single event and just see how things go and drop my worst two.

But since I usually miss at least two events a year due to other reasons, I would like to actually try to “game the system” enough to figure out which might be good for me to miss. Just like Rodney was thinking this would be a good event for him to attend to add to his points lead (see previous posts in this thread) even though it looks like that was a very busy weekend for him. Some people take season points seriously at the local level and that should be an OK thing.

I really don’t want to drag this on or for anyone to think I am bent out of shape (I am not), but I don’t want this viewed as a complaint about an event in which I didn’t attend, but rather a constructive comment about the communication of the revised scoring rules (which I think was done with good intentions) being done after the event instead of prior and its potential impact on season points. I also want it to be clear that I think the points as awarded for the event should stand with no changes.

I don’t think there is anything left to say and hopefully this will die and not be the start of a flame war. In hindsight, I should have just emailed Stephen offline about this.

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Richard Casto
1972 Porsche 914
2013 Honda Fit Sport
2015 Honda Fit EX
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Money can't buy happiness, but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than a Kia.